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The SEC a Hidden Conference

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by user The Beast

Every time I turn my TV on to ESPN I hear Lee Corso exclaiming, "the SEC is the toughest conference in America..." Hold on a second Mr. Indiana coaching-reject. So you and others seem to claim that the SEC is the best conference in America! Right. Well, SEC schools were 41-7 in non-conference games during the 2006 football season. Wow! What a great record. They seem to do really well out of conference, proving how tough they are. That could not be any more misleading.


What's so great about the SEC?
What's so great about the SEC?
Of the 48 non-conference games played this year by the SEC schools, only 15 were against teams from the BCS conferences. Thats 31 percent! Whoa!

And when the schools did take on other BCS schools, ten of the fifteen were at home. Talk about refusing to play BCS schools on the road.

For those BCS conference schools, the record at home was a very respectable 7-3, butt he road record was 2-3.

The road wins were by Vanderbilt (over Duke) and South Carolina (over Clemson). Only the South Carolina victory is meaningful. The road losses were Kentucky (@ Louisville 59-2) , Vanderbilt (@ Michigan 27-7) and Ole Miss (@Missouri 34-7).

In terms of Home and Away Games, the SEC schools played a total of 7 away games in 2006. SEVEN! They refuse to play on the road.

So who do they even play? Take a quick look here:

Some popular schools to play appear to be:

  • UL-Monroe (who lost to Kentucky, Alabama, and Arkansas).
  • Duke (who lost to Alabama and Vanderbilt)
  • UAB (who lost to Miss St. and Georgia)
  • Memphis (who lost to Tenn and and Ole Miss).

Even worse:

  • W. Carolina (Florida beat them 62-0)
  • W Kentucky (Georgia beat them 48-12)
  • Texas State (Kentucky beat them 41-7)
  • Wofford (South Carolina only beat them 27-20)
  • Tennessee St (Vanderbilt beat them 38-9)
  • Temple (Vanderbilt beat them 43-14)
  • SE Miss State (Arkansas beat them 63-7)
  • Northwestern State (Ole Miss beat them 27-7)
  • Jacksonville St (Miss State beat them 35-3)

Losses in 2006 were:

  • Kentucky at Louisville, 59-28
  • Vanderbilt at Michigan, 27-7
  • Arkansas, home against USC, 50-14
  • Ole Miss, at Missouri, 34-7
  • Ole Miss, home against Wake Forest, 27-3
  • Miss State, home against Tulane, 32-29
  • Miss State, home against W Virginia, 42-14.

Impressive wins in 2006 include:

  • Tennessee, home against CAL, 35-18
  • South Carolina, at Clemson, 31-28
  • Alabama, home against Hawaii, 25-17
  • Auburn, home against Wash St, 40-14
  • LSU, home against Arizona, 45-3


Conclusion: I am not saying the SEC sucks. It surely has some very good football programs. However, it is impossible to objectively rate the conference due to their members' unwillingness to schedule tough non-conference games on the road. When do we see Florida, Georgia, or LSU travel to Autzen Stadium, Michigan Stadium, or Ohio Stadium? Do they play a night game at Beaver Stadium? No, they don't. They stay home and play subpar Division 1-A and 1-AA teams. The SEC only had one legitimate road game victory this year in non-conference play, South Carolina by THREE at Clemson. The only way we can know if the SEC is for real is to play more BCS conference teams, besides Duke, on the road.

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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
676 days ago
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Ok....Hidden?
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
675 days ago
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"They refuse to play on the road."

Big Name schools (which make up about half of the SEC) don't play away games with crappier non-con teams. It's the same thing with Ohio State. They give teams like Bowling Green a shot to make some cash by playing a big school, but they're not going to trek up to Northwest Ohio to take on the Falcons.

And I think it's an unfair point to focus on the SEC's non-con schedule anyway, because there are so many in-conference power houses. There will typically be more ranked teams in the SEC than every other conference. It's not like the Big East where there might be one or two.
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The BeastAAA-er
675 days ago
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How do we know they are powerhouses in the first place, if they don't play schools from BCS conferences. Look we can tell how good the Pac 10 is by watching USC. The Trojans easily destroy out of conference foes, Nebraska, Arkansas, Hawaii, Notre Dame, etc. However, its been the Pac 10 schools who've challenged and beat USC over the past few years. K-State and Texas are the only 3 non-conference teams to beat USC since 2002. Other P-10 schools like Arizona, Arizona State, Washington, and Washington State all played USC tough. In 04, Stanford, UCLA, Oregon State, also played them tough. Yousee USC dominates out of conference, but can struggle during the conference games.
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JeevesJV Squad
675 days ago
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I do agree that USC has been ridiculously good out of conference (and in conference for that matter) but how much of that would you contribute to complacency? I think teams tend to play to their full potential when they are playing a good out of conference team, as opposed to another ho-hum conference rival. I don't know how much you would/can attribute to that, but it's a factor.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
673 days ago
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You can't look soley at records. You can tell if a team is good or not by evaluating their talent and play.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
284 days ago
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fucking idiots away games dont carryalot of weight. they dont mean everything, besides our conference games are the only reason the sec does not have 6-7 teams in the top 10 every year. we cancel each other out. other confrences dont have that worry. i mean their whole schdules are fluff fluff fluff.
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JuTMSY4Legend
284 days ago
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you're right arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, all belong in the top 10...wait.....what?!
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JeevesJV Squad
675 days ago
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I'm not trying to say the SEC is the best or worst, but just propose a question... People continually rave about how the SEC plays unbelievable defense, how they play the best defense in the country, etc. Do you think all those schools really are stacked on the defensive side of the ball or do you think that their offenses are too conservative and overrated, creating the illusion that their defenses are dominant?
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TartanVarsity Captain
673 days ago
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Can't agree more
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Jgov05All-American
674 days ago
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SEC defenses are by far the toughest in the country. The conference had five of the nation's top 25 defenses this year. While I wouldn't say that SEc offenses are better than some of the other conference's, there is an SEC offensive player as a Hesiman finalist (Darren McFadden). Also, taking out 1-AA opponents, SEc teams have gone 33-7 out of conference. No other conference even comes close to matching that. Also, just look at the ranked teams in the SEC. Florida is #2, LSU is #5, Auburn is #9, Arkansas is #13, Tennessee is around #15. Georgia is almost in the poll as well. So no matter how you look at it, the SEC was the toughest conference in the country this year.
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False ProphetAll-Star
674 days ago
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No offense to Mcfadden, but he won't come close to winning, Smith or Quinn has it locked up
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The BeastAAA-er
674 days ago
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Yes of course they will have a good non-conference winning percentage. You must look at their out of conference quality wins. I don't see too many.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
409 days ago
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33-7, and if they aren't playing anyone of note with a shot of actually losing, then it still doesn't mean a thing. I do think they were the better conference last year. It all goes in cycles.
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TartanVarsity Captain
673 days ago
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That is another facet of the over hyping of the SEC. You mention ranks, however, those are entirely subjective. You mention a heisman finalist, but the last SEC player to win the Heisman was Danny Wuerffel in 1996. It will be more than 10 years since their last winner. Before Weurffel is was Bo Jackson in 1985. Two winners in the last 20 years.

The rankings, they are artificially inflated because of the victories over "ranked" teams. If you beat a ranked and way inflated Georgia, your team looks better, and somehow deserve a ranking. What makes an 8-4 Georgia worth ranking, with losses to Kentucky and Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt has 4 wins, the Georiga victory, then a 1AA school, then Temple and Duke. What about that is worth anything?

Those are just two schools in the SEC, beating eachother doesn't mean you're any good, if the rankings weren't in front of the names and you just looked at the team, you'd realize that a lot of the SEC teams are highly overrated.
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JeevesJV Squad
673 days ago
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I definitely agree. That's one of the reasons why I've always been in favor of doing away with pre-season polling and starting it a few games into the season. So much is dictated by the pre-season rankings.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
441 days ago
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ok. Ohio is a great football school. MANY people said that Florida couldn't handle a "big" school like Ohio. does anybody remember what the score was the first time Florida played Ohio in football? It was a blowout!
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
416 days ago
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Enough said on the SEC vs other conferences. I think it was 6-3 in bowl games this year over OTHER conferences.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
384 days ago
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ummm. let's talk last year's bowls (2006-2007):

kentucky won. south carolina won. georgia won. tennessee lost. auburn won. arkansas lost. LSU won. florida won.

so, let's see: that's 6-2 and a national champtionship.

who were you saying had the better conference?
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