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Supporting Donovan McNabb's Claim With Quantifiable Proof

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by I am a cpcp

I'm sure by now most of you have heard/read Donovan McNabb's comment on there being more pressure on black quarterbacks than white quarterbacks. While many claim otherwise, McNabb is more right that he - and we - know. While I was on vacation, I read the book Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking by Malcolm Gladwell. Blink is about the amazing power and speed of the human mind's subconscious.

One section of the book talked about race and how Americans like to think they see other races and how they actually see other races. Some smart people at Harvard have actually developed a test to measure your personal preference of one race vs. another (or different sexualities, religions, etc.) They're called Implicit Association Tests.

The African American - European American IAT flashes pictures of white and black people and you sort them into the side with the proper heading. You then get words like joy, happiness, hurt, and pain and sort those into categories of good or bad. Then you mix the two and sort good words and white people into one category and bad words and black people into the other. Then it switches to good/black, bad/white. Your speed in sorting opens a window into your subconscious.

Look at the results to the right. Over half of the people taking this test have a moderate or strong preference of European Americans over African Americans. And it's not only white people taking the test. Gladwell, who is half Jamaican and half European-American, said he scored moderate preference to whites.

If you'd like to take the test, go to here and follow the directions. Some of the results can be rather eye-opening. You never know what may be going on in your mind. (Blink is a fascinating book, by the way. I highly recommend it.) If you're feeling brave, you can even post your results in the comments and we can get a feel for the AGM community.

In case you're wondering, I registered in the slight preference for white people. Which isn't too surprising. Even though I work with a lot of black people and have black friends now, I grew up in a town that didn't have a black family until I was in high school.

Anyway, McNabb -- whether he knew it or not -- was not just blowing hot air. We might not want to admit it, we might not even know about it, but there's still a negative association with black people in this country. It may be sad, but it is true.


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NejoshiDiv-I Stud
393 days ago
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McNabb should stop making these sorts of comments and worry about how he's going to pick apart the Lions defense on Sunday. If they lose that game, there will be hell to pay, no matter what.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
393 days ago
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Whether he's right or not (of course he is) it still doesn't excuse his performance on the field. No one gets to choose which race they are born, but everyone gets to choose what they do with it once they are...

Let's not forget that McNabb leans to the whiny, crybaby side when it comes to criticism.

I like what Jut said before because it's true - this isn't a story in Philly like it is in the rest of the country. When he's wearing the Green helmet he's GOING to get scrutinized like an emepher no matter what color he is in that town.

The tough thing for the black athlete is that if they play the role, do their job, don't complain and aren't scrutinized, then they are ostracized as being an Uncle Tom.

Also, this is an "American" thing more than anything else. People are just people in most of the world. We Americans still have our heads up our historical asses when it comes to race. Boxing great/black man (and original Pimp Daddy) Jack Johnson left America over 100 years ago because he wanted "to be treated like a human, not treated like a damned Negro". Sad thing, he'd still be right today.

  • Blink is a great book and Gladwell is a VERY excellent writer. Tipping Point is also highly recommended.
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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If he wants to complain about being a scrutined QB (or perhaps the most), that's fine...

Philly doesn't care what color a QB is as long as he wins...

McNabb did get booed on draft day...because the Philly fans (just angelo Cataldi) wanted...a black running back!!!
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CheezerMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Don't you (Manny) see that racial division being perpetuated by the media in America? I try not to look at race, yet everywhere I turn, some pundit or entertainer is cramming racial differences down my throat. Forcing me to see divisions. Why don't our cultural speakers just call us all Americans so we can move forward? By the way, I am a white guy from a rural area about 20 miles outside of Green Bay, WI. Now, I live in Northern Indiana. According to the IAT, I have a strong preference for African American as opposed to European American. I have no idea what that means.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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I have tipping point, I just haven't gotten around to reading it yet.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Race is seen because it is a previlent issue in our society. I say this everytime that Race becomes an issue on this site. Many on this site (including myself) are too young to remebemer this but I grew up in a different area. This country is less than 1 generation removed from legalized segratation. Defacto segregation is still practiced in this country. When my parents (who are in their 50's) experienced intagration and I hear those stories about that growing up, right or wrong those stroies stick with you and you cannot help to think about those things. Too often in todays society we are so eager to get away from the bad things, and from our dirty past that we will sweep things under the rug, and then accuse people of being overly sensitive or out of line when they do cry racism. It is a shame that we allow and encurage this form of sensory denial.
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Steel TownAll-American
393 days ago
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It's pretty much impossible to move on without putting things behind you. I know that may seem over simplified or cold, but that's the way it is. Future generations might be better off hearing just the facts of history and not the emotions that came with integration. And its not just black people that need to move on it's white people too.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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There's more to it than just moving on. You need to advance and go forward, but you can never forget where you came from.
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CheezerMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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I hope you didn't intend to imply that I was in denial and "trying to sweep things under the rug", BigP.

When true racism rears it's ugly head, it must be brought to the light where it can be properly vilified. Only through exposure and condemnation of racism by all of us can we teach our youth to look beyond our differences and to highlight the ways in which we are alike.

My point is a big part of putting the racism behind us as a culture must come from all of us thinking together. When comedians make jokes that serve to highlight the differences between people of different races, it doesn't help to minimize (dare I dream, eliminate) racism. It just serves to make light of division.

Other aspects of popular culture also highlight our differences. As long as we point to the differences there will be some that judge by them.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Im not making an attack on you personally. The problem is people are too scared to sit down and actually hash out what has accured in the past. Till we are to do that then it is impossible to make a step forward.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
393 days ago
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Show me a person who got to choose their race and I'll show you a person who is allowed to be a racist. It's not what you're given, it's what you do with it!
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Despite the fact tthat that sounded like a horrible afterschool special announcement, I do agree with you Manny
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American."

I'm a little stunned by this...

More importantly (and i'm not an expert), but I have to question the validity of this test...many people who grew up with computers (like me) perceive functions as on and off...this test was a sound example...i just quickly taught myself what each meant...whether black faces were good or bad and same with white faces...

I could easily get another score again...
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CheezerMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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I agree. In the survey after the test, I told them that timing and rhythm played a role in my answers.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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That's something Gladwell covered. It seems like something you can train yourself to do and that your score would go more towards the center every time as you learn the process, but pretty much everyone gets the same score every time they take it. Unless they precondition themselves before the test but that's a whole other subject. It feels as though your consciously training yourself to sort the pictures and words, but if you're doing the the test correctly, your impulse are controlling everything and therefor it reveals your subconscious thinking..
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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my subconscious thinking it knowing whether to go left or right...and then recorganizing as they change...first i think to think black = right...and then good = left...and so on... The words they use were almost irrelivant...
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
393 days ago
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I had a problem with the test. Its just a matter of doing it over and over again. I did 3 different tests. I am now convinced that if I did the race test again I could predict my result which would be dtraight down the middle. It is just a matter of taking a second before it begins and reminding your self which button you are hitting for which category. Once I got that down pat all my results are straight down the middle.
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TehLokiVarsity
393 days ago
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Hm, I don't put more pressure on any QB based on race myself. For example, I'd yell and berate Jeff Garcia for any dumb plays he makes just as bad as I did McNabb. Also the same with Doug Pederson, ROdney Peete, I mean hell, I hate Ron Jaworski.

Race comes up wya too often it tires me out, I'm tired of the subject. While what McNabb said may be true, he's trying to make an excuse about the criticism he gets. He hates being broken down and everyt little thing he does wrong magnified.

He's a wreck on the field, he's scared in the pocket and he hates to be told he did something wrong or he's not living up to epectations. Now, while this isn't ALL his fault, He gets most of it, being our QB.

It's pretty much any QB gets alot of pressure (unless your name is Peyton Manning or Tom Brady), because the QB position is the most important, and high pressure position there is.
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TehLokiVarsity
393 days ago
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Sorry for any typos. My glasses broke and i can't see to well..lolo
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MattB15Waterboy
393 days ago
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The pressures are getting to him in Philly. He is the only black QB right now I'd want as a starter right now. McNair, T Jackson, Culpepper, on and on are not too good right now. As for Vick and McNabb, they're good, but the black QB's right now aren't all too strong. It showed progress in the late 90's, early 00's...Cunningham finishing, Joe Hamilton, Shaun King, McNabb, Vick, Culpepper all gave hope. But they have regressed lately. Most of them (Mike Robinson, Brad Smith, etc.) change to a skill position in the pros...and soon Pat White, probably.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Black QB's are more often drafted because of their athletic ability and becoming a duel threat. McNabb really is the first one since Cunningham who has the ability to be both a threat with his legs (before the multiple injuries) and his arm.
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NoHuddleOffensiveWaterboy
393 days ago
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That is the dumbest test I have ever seen. It could show you as a racist if you sucked at the usage of computers. Whatever, this is dumb. McNabb is LOVED by most in the media until this point, when he started losing. LOSING. CHOKING IN SUPER BOWLS. and he can piss and moan, but no one is more criticized then the white Rex Grossman.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
393 days ago
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I don't see how this test proves that there is more pressure on Black QBs as opposed to White QBs? Where is the relevance? Also Manny, if you think that Europe doesn't have race issues then you've either never been or don't pay attention because especially in sports across Europe (England, France and Germany not so much) there are huge racist problems. Why do you think FIFA have their bumber-sticker "Say NO To Racsim" campaign? We are socially progressive in this country when it comes to race compared to many places in the world. One of our major issues is that Americans, espcially the media like to pretend that race issues don't exsist instead of dealing with them head on with open conversation. But that's different place/ different time kinda stuff. NG
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Manny StilesAAA-er
393 days ago
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racism in Europe is more religion and culturism issues than about skin color. There's a reason most of the wars in history started in Europe.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
392 days ago
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well our racism is historcally based on economics, it doesn't matter why their racist, their still really racist today over there, that's my point.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
393 days ago
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70% of people polled generally preferred whites to blacks

11% of people polled generally preferred blacks to whites % of whites in US ~75 % of blacks in US ~12

News flash... People are generally more comfortable with people similar to themselves.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
392 days ago
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I hate everyone equally!
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LASportsblogAAA-er
392 days ago
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Again I ask how this test proves that there is more Pressure on Black Quarterbacks or that people still don't want black players at the quarterback position? Nothing in here suggest that and to link the two topics together without showing how the topics are relatedable is irresponsible.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
392 days ago
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related* not relatedable
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
392 days ago
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Black quarterbacks are black people. If you're from the west coast and going to college you probably had to take the SAT, right? Remember the analogy part? Black quarterbacks are to black people as white quarterbacks are to white people.
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False ProphetAll-Star
392 days ago
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"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American." Can't say I'm shocked. I live in a white area, and go to a predominantly white school. Although I think it might be flawed because I stepped away for about 30 seconds during the test, which might have held a higher weight
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392 days ago
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