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Ranking the MLB Lifers: Part Three

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by user Timothy Moreland(Bball3345)

The following list contains all of the MLB players who have spent their entire careers with one organization and have ten or more years of major league experience. They are ranked by years with the team.

Stats are as of July 5, 2006

NAME TEAM YEARS BRAR BRAA FRAA WARP
Craig Biggio Houston Astros 18 728 386 -131 121.9
Bernie Williams New York Yankees 15 656 403 -60 99.9
Tim Salmon Los Angeles Angels 13 539 343 40 81.7
Chipper Jones Atlanta Braves 12 657 454 -179 79.5
Mike Lieberthal Philadelphia Phillies 12 176 41 6 44.9
Garret Anderson Los Angeles Angels 12 317 96 24 59.9
Mike Sweeney Kansas City Royals 11 310 171 -8 41.1
Derek Jeter New York Yankees 11 540 332 -132 85.9
Jorge Posada New York Yankees 11 330 192 24 66.8
Andruw Jones Atlanta Braves 10 357 166 138 82.6
Darin Erstad Los Angeles Angels 10 221 45 106 51.4

All of the stats come from Baseball Prospectus.

In total, there are eleven players on this list. There are also three pitchers, John Smoltz, Brad Radke, and Mariano Rivera, but this series will only deal with batters. BRAR and BRAA are batting runs above replacement and batting runs above average. BRAR is a better indicator of long-term success, while BRAA indicates a higher peak. FRAA is fielding runs above average. WARP is Wins Above Replacement Player and takes into account every aspect of the game (i.e. baserunning, hitting, fielding).

This series of articles will attempt to rank these players careers by looking at a few of the batters each week. Part One ranked Mike Lieberthal, Mike Sweeney, and Darin Erstad, while Part Two ranked Jorge Posada and Garret Anderson. This installment will position Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones, and Tim Salmon on the list.

Chipper Jones

"Met Killer" is what Larry "Chipper" Jones is most remembered for. Obviously, this came from his tremendous success when Atlanta matched up with New York. Chipper won the 1999 MVP almost solely on his hot streak against the Mets during the stretch run of the season. Offensively, 1999 was Chipper's best year. He hit a career-best 45 home runs with 116 runs scored and 110 runs batted in. This also came with the added bonus of 25 stolen bases in 28 attempts. For the season, Chipper's line was .319/.441/.633. As mentioned, this was Chipper's best year with the bat; however, thanks to horrific defense at third base, it was not his best year overall. This honor belongs to 2002, in which he came in eleventh in the MVP voting. His offensive stats of .327/.435/.536 with 26 home runs, 90 runs, and 100 RBIs were solid. It was his only season with an above average defensive performance that made it so valuable. Chipper's bat surpasses anyone on the above list, but his defense ranks far below any of the others. After topping the 140 game mark from 1995-2003, he has dropped to 137 and then 109 the last two years.

Best Years(WARP over 6.0)

2002, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2000, 1996, 2003

Awards

MVP: 1999

All-Star: 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001

Silver Slugger: 1999, 2000

Andruw Jones

Last year's runner-up at MVP, Andruw Jones runs circles around the rest of the player's, defensively. From 1997-2003, Andruw covered the Atlanta outfield with unprecedented range. In 1998, Jones had a ridiculous 20 outfield assists. Runners have been less willing to run on him since. Still, he has accumulated double-digit assists five times since then. Although his range has slipped in recent years, he remains an above average defender. 2005 was Jones' best season at bat, with a .263/.347/.575 line and a league-leading 51 home runs. He also led the league in RBI's with 128. Andruw, at 29-years-old, should have more big years ahead of him.

Best Years(WARP over 6.0)

2000, 2002, 1999, 1998, 2003, 2005, 2001, 2004

Awards

All-Star: 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005

Gold Gloves: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005

Silver Slugger: 2005

Tim Salmon

Salmon's 1995 season, overall, was better than any of Chipper's or Andruw's years. In 143 games, the Silver Slugger hit 34 home runs, scored 111 runs, and drove in 105 with a .330/.429/.594 line. Throw in his tremendous defense in leftfield, and this 26-year-old was a serious MVP candidate. He may or may no have been the most worthy candidate, but he had a superior season to the actual winner, Mo Vaughn. Salmon was still putting up solid offensive numbers in 2003, before his left knee and right rotator cuff problems led to a terrible 2004 season. After missing 2005, Salmon has returned relatively strong with the bat in 2006 at the age of 37.

Best Years

1995, 1993, 2000, 1997, 1996, 1994, 1998, 2002

Awards

Rookie of the Year: 1993

All-Star: 2002, 2003, 2005

Silver Slugger: 1995

Final Verdict

4. Andruw Jones

5. Chipper Jones

6. Tim Salmon

7. Jorge Posada

8. Garret Anderson

9. Darin Erstad

10. Mike Sweeney

11. Mike Lieberthal

Deciding between these three was a near-impossible task. Ultimately, it came down to Chipper's poor defense and recent health concerns putting him behind Andruw's Gold Glove defense and younger age. Salmon had the best overall year, but he also has the weakest seasons.

In Part Four, I will take a look at Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, and Craig Biggio to decide where they rank in the top three.


Date

Sun 07/09/06, 11:17 am EST


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Manny StilesAAA-er
790 days ago
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who gets traded off this list first?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
790 days ago
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I have a hunch it will be A. Jones.
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DetroitownLittle Leaguer
790 days ago
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What the hell is Jorge Posado doing on this list? He's average and gets the job done (most games). Big deal.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
790 days ago
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Well, he is on the list because he has spent all 11 years of his career on one team. However, you probably mean why is he so high on the list? Well, he has tremendous offensive stats for his career, even before considering he is a catcher. 2000 and 2003 were legitimate, MVP-caliber seasons for Posada. His career line is .270/.376/.470 with slightly above average defense at catcher.
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