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Ken Griffey Jr.: Are His Days In Center Over?

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by user Timothy Moreland(Bball3345)

"For somebody who can't play this (expletive) game to sit there and criticize me ..." Ken Griffey Jr., on recent talk radio claims that he should move out of center field to help the team (Cincinnati Enquirer)

All discussion of this quote centered around Griffey’s response to the radio show. What should be investigated further is the validity of the claim to move Griffey out of centerfield. There are three questions to ask to determine if such a move is indeed a good idea. First, can Griffey no longer field centerfield sufficiently? Second, can someone else on the roster field the position significantly better? Third, would the move ultimately improve the team? The stat used in this article to measure defense will be Rate. Rate is a BaseballProspectus stat that measures how many runs above/below average a player is in the field per 100 games. A Rate of 100 would be average, while a Rate of 90 would be 10 runs below average per 100 games. One question at a time, let’s go…

In 2000, Griffey was an above average fielder, recording a Rate of 105. He only made 5 errors, while showing his great range with a high number of putouts (376 in 141 games). The very next year trouble began. Injured, Griffey played in only 111 games, 90 in centerfield. Griffey managed to throw out only one runner, after having nine assists in 2000. His Rate dropped to a pathetic 84. Still struggling with injuries from 2002-2004, he posted pedestrian Rates of 81, 90, and 93. Last year, which was Griffey’s healthiest season since 2000, the injuries had clearly taken a toll. Whether his speed was gone or he was scared to re-injure the leg, Griffey no longer had the tremendous range of his days roaming center in Seattle. Griffey has yet to make an error this year, but that is due more to him not getting to the ball than anything positive. Unfortunately, his Rate in 2006 has stuck down around 90. So, to answer the first question, Ken Griffey Jr. can clearly no longer field CF adequately.

Knowing the Reds need to look elsewhere, there are three legitimate options: Adam Dunn, Ryan Freel, and Austin Kearns. Dunn, the current starter in leftfield, has enough troubles fielding. With no experience in CF and a career Rate of 93 at the easier position in left, a move to center would probably hurt the team more than help. Ryan Freel, the speedy utilityman, has played 27 games in center this year (108 Rate) and 107 in his career (107 Rate). Defensively, it appears as if Freel would add approximately 20 runs, or about 2 wins, to the Reds if started over Griffey in center from here out. This does not include the change in offensive production, which will be addressed in the next paragraph. Finally, Austin Kearns, the starting rightfielder, has limited, although impressive, experience in center. In only 49 career games in CF, he has a Rate of 108, three assists, and only one error. Strong fielding should be expected as shown by his play in RF (104 Rate in 2006, 105 in 361 career games). Therefore, it appears as if there are two viable options to improve the defense in centerfield: Freel and Kearns.

While Freel would save about 20 runs on defense, one would expect Griffey’s offense to offset this gain. According to BaseballProspectus, Freel and Griffey are both one run below average and have EQA’s of .255 and .252, respectively. So, there has been virtually no difference in offense this year; however, history favors Griffey, by quite a bit. Just last year, Ken Griffey had an EQA of .313 with 36 runs above average. In comparison, Freel had a .275 EQA with 7 runs above average in 2005. Freel had two seasons of .272 EQAs in 2003 and 2004. At 30 years old, this appears to be the most one could expect from him. On the other hand, Griffey followed his strong year last year with EQA’s of .312 in 2003 and .290 in 2004. It appears as if his offense should pick up considerably; although, age may catch up to him as he is 36 this season. Assuming Griffey can find his groove at the plate, centerfield is his to keep. If Griffey fails to outperform Freel on offense by a noticeable margin (at least 10-15 runs), moving Freel into the starting lineup in center appears to be a smart decision for the team.

As far as the option of moving Griffey to left for Kearns, this does not seem to have as much of an advantage. Both of these players are already in the starting lineup, so the team would not notice an offensive boost or slide. There might be an advantage in placing Kearns between Dunn and Griffey, both below average defenders. Currently, balls hit between Dunn and Grifffey are likely not going to be fielded. Kearns could significantly reduce the gaps Dunn and Griffey would have to be responsible for. This appears to be a smarter way to align the outfield and does not have to send a future Hall-of-Famer to the bench. This seemingly smart decision does not come without a glaring negative. Whether or not this is true I don’t know, but the Reds insisted they could not move Griffey to a corner-outfield position, because having to make sudden stops while running toward the foul-line/wall would re-injure his leg. I do not know if there is really anymore sudden stops on the corners than in center, but this should be a concern. Otherwise, it seems as if moving Kearns to center and Griffey to left would considerably improve the amount of outs made in the Cincinnati outfield.


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Mon 05/29/06, 5:14 pm EST

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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
867 days ago
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Perhaps they could trade Griffey to an AL team, where he'd make a great DH, and backup outfielder in times of need. They can get a better fielder, if slightly worse hitter in return.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
867 days ago
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It says in his contract that he "will only accept trades to Atlanta, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis."
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The sharkDraft Pick
867 days ago
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Benching Griffey for Freel would be a mistake of epic proportions. Freel is a good utility man - nothing else. I don't know whether or not you are a Reds fan. I'm guessing not because no Reds fan in their right mind would suggest this move with any degree of seriousness. Griffey's fielding may be slipping but his presence in lineup does things to opposing pitchers and managers that Freel could never dream of. The offensive potential between the two is not even close. Griffey plays centerfield for Cincinnati every day (barring injury) until he retires or is traded. Period.
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The sharkDraft Pick
867 days ago
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Additionally, if Griffey were willing to swap places with Kearns, then I agree with that part of your point. That may indeed be an upgrade. Although I doubt that Griffey would be willing to do so.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
867 days ago
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I am not a Reds fan at all. Griffey would NOT be willing to swap with Kearns, no doubt about that. However, it would be wise if he would. Griffey's fielding is not "slipping," it has already slipped, tremendously. I agree that the offensive POTENTIAL between the two is not close, but Griffey is getting to the age where he may not be able to live up to that potential. So far, Griffey has been about even with Freel offensively and light years behind defensively. This is why I said, "If Griffey fails to outperform Freel on offense by a noticeable margin (at least 10-15 runs), moving Freel into the starting lineup in center appears to be a smart decision for the team."
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The sharkDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I disagree that Griffey and Freel have been "about even". Freel has been awful this year. And Griffey cannot be judged too harshly so far because has been injured for a good bit of the season. I know you're not talking about last year because Griffey was tremendous. I don't get how you think Freel is anywhere near the option Griffey is. I would bench Dunn for Freel LONG before I would bench Griffey. The team could do without his 190 strikeouts and .240 batting average.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
866 days ago
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First, if Freel has been "awful" with a .370 OBP and 11 steals, then Griffey has been pretty awful himself with a .296 OBP. Yes, Griffey has been injured but it does not take away from the fact he has been about the same value as Freel. It may not continue that way but it has been that way so far, which is what I said. I think Freel would be better than Griffey IF Griffey does not heat up with the bat, which I expect him to do, because Freel is much better in the field. It would be a HUGE mistake to bench Dunn because he has been and will be the teams best hitter. Yes, he has a .230 AVG but who cares when has a .378 OBP and a .573 SLG for a great .951 OPS. You can't expect any better than that from Griffey.
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The sharkDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Your points are well-taken but I am simply not willing to throw in the towel on a hall-of-fame centerfielder 30% into an injury-shortened season just because his 105 have not provided a whole lot. Especially after his production last year. These things require a little patience. By the way, here are Freels's numbers since April 20 (29 games - or, almost 20% of the season) - .214 BA, .280 OBP, 8 runs, 3 steals, 2 caught stealing. Surely you would agree those numbers are, if not "awful" then not good.
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The sharkDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Also - Dunn is far from the team's "best hitter."
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Bball3345Draft Pick
866 days ago
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I agree that Freel is in a slump and I definitely agree that it is too early to throw in the towel on Griffey. Freel is much bettter than that slump indicates based on the past few years of Freel's career. I'm curious as to who you think is the team's best hitter because it is easily Dunn in my eyes.
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The sharkDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I like Dunn's OBP and homerun totals but that is all he offers. He strikes out way too much (MLB record 195 two years ago) and last year he had only one sacrifice fly. That is unacceptable for a number 3,4 or 5 hitter. And to have only 406 career RBI on 175 homeruns tells me he is not at all good at driving in runs. An alarming percentage of his RBI come on his home runs. I don't know how old you are but Dunn reminds me of Dave Kingman (late 70's, early 80's). The Reds best hitter is Ken Griffey Jr. (when healthy) and I believe he made a pretty good case for it last year (.301, 35, 92). I also like Kearns and Felipe Lopez (unproven thus far, I concede) better than Dunn offensively. I will say this though - when Dunn gets a hold of one, he hits the ball harder than anyone else in baseball.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
866 days ago
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When you mentioned that Dunn is not good at driving in runs, it made me wonder if he wasn't good or there just weren't any runners on for him to drive in. When I checked, you are correct. He is decent at driving runners in from first and second, but TERRIBLE at driving in runners on 3rd. The rest of the Cincy players in 2005 drove in about 50% of guys on 3rd, while Dunn only drove in 25%. This was also similarly true for 2004. This is a definite negative; however, I would like to point out some positives in his game as well. Because Dunn strikes out a lot, he is one of the 2nd least likely batter to ground into a double play in 2005. According to BaseballProspectus, Dunn should have grounded into 10 more double plays than he did. This should at least help to counter some of the inability to hit a sac fly. Also, while Dunn does not drive runners in as well as one would like, he does allow others to drive him in with his high OBP. A healthy Griffey would be the best batter on the team but he hasn't seen 145 games in a season since 2000. I also like Lopez(especially with his offense as a SS) and Kearns, but I would rate them both a notch below Dunn and Griffey.
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The sharkDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I believe we have found some common ground on which to stand. I will keep an open for your next column.
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