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Hall of Fame Locks: Pitchers

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by user Jgov05

More so than the batters, we are seeing many all-time great pitchers today. We arguably are seeing the best starter ever in Roger Clemens and the best closer ever in Mariano Rivera. In fact, there are 8 total pitchers, who, in my opinion, deserve a Hall Call. Let's take a look at them and their major stats to see how they stack up.


Pitcher Name Wins ERA WHIP Saves All Stars Cy Youngs World Series Titles Playoff ERA
Roger Clemens 345 3.12 1.17 0 11 7 2 3.71
Greg Maddux 328 3.06 1.13 0 8 4 1 3.22
Randy Johnson 276 3.19 1.16 2 10 5 1 3.28
Pedro Martinez 206 2.77 1.02 3 7 3 1 3.40
Tom Glavine 287 3.46 1.31 0 9 2 1 3.58
John Smoltz 187 3.26 1.17 154 7 1 1 2.66
Mariano Rivera 58 2.29 1.04 410 5 0 4 .81
Trevor Hoffman 49 2.73 1.05 467 4 0 0 3.75


As you can see there are a few absolute stone-cold locks, including Clemens and Maddux. Rivera and Johnson are just slightly behind but shoo-ins as well.

Then come the iffy pitchers. While Glavine and his near-300 win total will (and should) get him in, Smoltz is questionable. I chose him because he has been an anchor during the Braves' 14 year division title run and has proved himself dominant as a starter and closer. His resume, with nearly 200 wins and 154 saves, is certainly unique.

With Hoffman, many will not vote him in based on his lack of playoff appearances. However, he will retire the all-time saves leader and his stats prove more dominant than many may remember him. If he reaches 500 saves (which he should), that will be an eye-popping statistic.

Martinez needs a few more years to acheive "retire today and get in status," but his excellent play has been well-chronicled on these pages. You know why he should make it. His run from 1997 to 2003 was incredible.

So that wraps it up. These are your future Hall of Famers and you get to see them every week. Make you feel a little more lucky now?

Next week I'll do the batters.

Date

Wed 08/16/06, 6:20 pm EST


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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
876 days ago
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+ Nice List, no arguments here...Would have like to seen you take a stab at some 'projected players' who are the next likely to make it (Johan? Zito? Mark Prior? snicker, snicker). Very good call not mentioning Schilling OR Pedro. I'm glad that not everyone has brain damage...
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HappyskinnyAll-American
876 days ago
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Pedro is in the Hall for sure Manny. If Koufax is in, Pedro is definitely in.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
876 days ago
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No, he got the list correct.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
876 days ago
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Well if you say so AF...
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
876 days ago
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NEVER doubt an AF!
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The sharkDraft Pick
876 days ago
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Amazing that John Smoltz has 154 saves and only closed games for three years!!
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
875 days ago
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one of the best three year streaks for a closer ever. anybody know what happened to eric gagne?
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The sharkDraft Pick
876 days ago
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Uh - Manny, Pedro IS on the list. And deserves to be. Why the Pedro hate?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
876 days ago
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I still don't see it...
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ASwaffAll-American
876 days ago
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It's strange to look at Pedro and think that he needs more wins. That's the problem I have with the landmarks for the HOF in baseball. Like 3,000 hits automatically gets you in, or 300 wins, or 500 homers. They can be so arbitrary sometimes. Pedro's getting pretty old, and he needs 94 more wins to reach 300. I don't think he can do it, but it seems so stupid to say he shouldn't be in just because he didn't reach that number. It seems equally absurd to think McGwire is a shoe-in because of how many homeruns he hit. Aside from his career homers, his stats are quite mediocre. If you look at the marks it takes to be a "shoe-in," McGwire's a shoe-in while Pedro is on the fence. How stupid does that seem, really?
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Bleeding GreenVarsity
876 days ago
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I think Schilling is a future hall of famer for sure. The kind if big game credibility he carries is almost a free pass into the hall. Guys with tha kind of postseason reputation have gotten in with less impressive careers outside ofhteir big moments than Schilling.
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ASwaffAll-American
875 days ago
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That's a good point - his postseason performances are what made him a lock. If you look at his career numbers, they don't jump out at you. I think he'd be on the fence, leaning towards not getting in, were it not for his post-season performances in 2001 and 2004.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
875 days ago
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ummm... Jack Morris
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Twins15Varsity Captain
875 days ago
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What about Jack Morris? Schilling's been a lot better pitcher throughout his career than Morris was.
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JoebookRed-Shirting
875 days ago
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As you all know, I'm a big fan of HOF debates... Smoltz is in, and his postseason performances are the deciding factors. Pedro is in because he is the most dominant pitcher of our generation, and could end up the all-time leader in WHIP.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
875 days ago
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Schilling is going to be in there for sure. Series in Arizona and the bloody sock incident, he's there. They've already got his bloody sock in a separate "Red Sox World Series" exhibit there.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
875 days ago
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I still want an analysis done of that blood. I say he stepped in katchup. I've never seen blood that looked like that before.  :)
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Jgov05All-American
875 days ago
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I'm on the fence about Schilling...he was mediocre his first 13 seasons until he turned it on with Arizona.
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Bleeding GreenVarsity
875 days ago
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No he wasn't. He was an Ace with the Phils and took them to game 6 of a world series. He was great in the postseason in 93.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
875 days ago
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Excellent list... as people are saying Schilling definitely will be in the discussion, but those 8 guys are the only ones who are locks "if they retired today."
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Bleeding GreenVarsity
875 days ago
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Schilling is a lock "if he retired today." No doubt in my mind. His postseason rep gets him in the hall easy.
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The Widening GeierSoccer Kid
874 days ago
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that playoff ERA on Rivera again.... .81. terrified of the day this man is gone.
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