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Can You Spell W-o-n-d-e-r-l-i-c?

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by user Batb

http://www.boovaandthebeast.blogspot.com

Every year the NFL Draft combine supplies what could only be described as cannon fodder for everyone with an IQ over 37 by administering and releasing the results of their famed Wonderlic test. Year after year we hear of a player achieving a "low" score on the test; last year it was Vince Young, a couple years ago it was Frank Gore (who notched a rip-roaring 5). I never thought much of it because I, unlike NFL executives, believe it would be very difficult to quantify game knowledge through a test. None of that changed my mind today when I took a sample Wonderlic test and scored a 39 out of a possible 50. So that being said, I am going answer all the questions that keep you awake at night, such as: how dumb can these guys be?; does it quantify their football knowledge?; can idiots still be good football players?

The fellas at Deadspin and Every Day Should Be Saturday got me all fired up about this because they drudged up my memories from last year when everyone from Mel Kiper to Bob Ley to the Philly Phanatic were tearing apart Vince Young on ESPN. As Todd McShay (in an effort to impress his man-crush, the previously aforementioned Kiper) notes, the highest score this year was a 41 by Justin Blalock out of the University of Texas. But I am not interested in the guys who excelled, rather I would like to take a look at the prospects who pulled an A-Rod on this test (in case any of them are reading, that means you guys didn't come through when it counts). From Todd McShay, the worst 10 scores this year are as follows:

T-1. David Irons, CB, Auburn (4) T-1. Bo Smith, S, Weber State (4) 3. Earl Everett, OLB, Florida (5) T-4. James Jones, WR, San Jose State (9) T-4. Turk McBride, DT, Tennessee (9) T-4. Julius Wilson, OT, UAB (9) T-7. Brandon Mebane, DT, Cal (10) T-7. Matt Trannon, WR, Michigan State (10) T-9. Baraka Atkins, DE, Miami (11) T-9. Alonzo Coleman, RB, Hampton (11)

Now, the lowest known score ever was posted by whiz-kid child prodigy and former Ravens linebacker Roderick Green with a 3. Fortunately none of these superstars sunk that low. The lowest score I had previously heard of before researching this was the one I mentioned earlier by Gore (5), but I took that in stride, probably because of the fact that I have seen Frank Gore interviewed on television and I didn't expect much more than that. But all that aside, lets look a little deeper at the some of the biggest morons of this years draft.

At number 7, Brandon Mebane is a cut above the bottom feeders, but should he be proud of that? Mebane attended Cal, otherwise known as the University of California at Berkeley. While it is known as a free-thinking, hippie, ultra-liberal campus, it is also widely recognized as one of the top public institutions in America. Perhaps Mebane took in a bit too much of the, eh, culture while he was there and didn't spend enough time looking at his papers. Or he did spend too much time looking at his papers. I don't know and don't care. Next.

At the top of the list is David Irons, CB, Auburn, and also the brother of Auburn's starting running back Kenny Irons. The folks at Scouts, Inc. put it politely when they said "marginal score on the Wonderlic Test." Marginal? The guy got lower than Frank Gore. Another interesting tidbit about David is that he thinks his brother is a monkey. Thats right, his own flesh and blood, is a monkey. Taken word for word from an interview on scout.com here is what David had to say about Kenny:

> I just tell him to keep running like that and keep on running to the jungle. I told him I'd buy him a seesaw and monkey bars so he can swing around like a banana tree. He's doing real good running to his jungle. I told him the end zone is his zoo and if he runs to the end zone he can be with all of his little animal friends. I just told him to treat the football like a banana. You treat the football like a banana and you won't let anybody at the zoo take your banana peel. He was like, Yeah, that's true. And I was like, Kenny, but it's not yellow, it's brown. Just think of it as an old banana and you've had out for weeks like you did at the house and its turned brown. Run with it and don't let people strip it. He's been running like a crazy wild child.

Need I say more? David Irons belongs in a mental institution.

I could go on all day showing examples of this stuff about these kids, but I don't want to tear them up any more. The real question is whether or not stupid players can succeed in the NFL. Who really cares how smart these guys are? This is football we are talking about. Any player must possess some streak of stupidity to go out there week after week, day after day, and get his brains beat in. To me, I would want a bunch of dumb athletic freaks on my team over some very smart fringe athletes. For example, two guys I mention befored, Vince Young and Frank Gore, both scored quite awful on the Wonderlic. Yet Young led the Titans to an 8-8 record and won Offensive ROY. Gore just ran for 1700 yards last season and was rewarded with an extension. Obviously the Wonderlic did a great job of showing us that these guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, but so what. It did nothing to quantify their knowledge of the game or, especially in Young's case, whether they could pick up a pro offense. Vince Young single-handedly made the Titans respectable last year in a league where starting rookie QB's are expected to struggle.

So who could be the Gore or Young of this year's draft? How about Earl Everett? He is a linebacker out of Florida who possesses skills enough to land him a spot on the first day of the draft. Direct from the Scouts, Inc. scouting report on him:

> Possesses good height and the frame to add bulk. Plays faster than 40-time indicates. He's at his best when protected and given room to roam. He displays good upper body power. He can be an explosive hitter for his size. He can match up one-on-one versus most running backs out of the backfield. Shows the athletic ability and speed to turn and run downfield with faster backs and occasionally even slot wide receivers. His ball skills are improving and he is becoming a bigger playmaker in the passing game.

A scouting report like that just screams at you that this kid can flat out play. But also included in that same scouting report are red flags about his mental capacity, certainly highlighted by his "marginal" Wonderlic score. Again, who cares? He plays linebacker. All they have to do is tell him "tackle guy with ball." Simple enough. This kid is gonna slip to Day 2 in the draft but if anyone on that list has potential to be an impact player, it's Everett.

What all the scouting and evaluating should come down to is whether or not a guy can play. If he doesn't know the square root of 4, no big deal. Can he go sideline to sideline and chase down ballcarriers? Can he overpower guys bigger than him? Can he burn anyone assigned to cover him? Those are questions that scouts need to be asking themselves. They should avoid putting stock in mental capacity. Like I said before, this is the game of football. NO dorks allowed.

- T-Rex

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Davis21wylieAll-Star
547 days ago
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Wow, my sample Wonderlic score was 50, no lie. One question I can't answer: how the hell do you score single figures on that thing?
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False ProphetAll-Star
547 days ago
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Because you take it in a really short time period (I think maybe 3-4 Minnutes). It's to see how well you will be able to understand the playcalling. VY's was a fluke. Everyone knew all he had to do is bring a DVD of the Rose Bowl, and be like, Wonderlic? Here's my wonderlic...and play the DVD.

Read these for an explanation

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The point is, if a player does poorly on the test, it means hes more likely to misunderstand the play, or screw it up when giving the play call. It's not as simple as you make it seem.

You give 2 examples of flukes. What about all those guys who bombed it and didn't make it that were slated as 4-5 rounders? Probably a lot
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BatbSoccer Kid
545 days ago
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Not sure what you mean by "What about all those guys who bombed it and didn't make it that were slated as 4-5 rounders?" I presume you are referring to players with mid round draft grades who bombed the Wonderlic and did not make it. If so, I would have to agree with you that, yeah, probably a lot of them did not make it. But more than likely it had to do with their playing ability, wouldn't you say? You don't typically find impact players in the middle rounds so I don't see how you could expect those players to produce. Has nothing to do with Wonderlic score.
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DrpatriotAll-American
545 days ago
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I think Batb's article was more about analyzing players with great physical talent but a low Wonderlic score - players projected as first- or second-rounders (Vince Young), or those who would have been first- or second-rounders but fell for other reasons (Frank Gore). I agree that there were many people who flunked it and then flunked out, but they probably lost because of a lack of talent and less because of their low Wonderlic.
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False ProphetAll-Star
544 days ago
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I'm talking about guys that were 3-5 rounders that had poor wonderlic scores and while the talent was there, they couldn't make it. Your artilce is flawed in that you're trying to prove the problem with a system through a fraction of cases that isnn't even .01% of the cases
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
544 days ago
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False,

First of all, like I said before, if guys are projected to go in the mid-rounds then it will probably have more to do with talent than Wonderlic score.

Usually in articles people cite certain examples, not every single case recorded. However, be that as it may, I am trying to show that there shouldn't be that much emphasis on the test scores. I don't believe that the examples I have cited are outliers, but rather somewhat typical of what happens every year.
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BatbSoccer Kid
545 days ago
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Drpatriot, you practically took the words right out of my mouth
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Manny StilesAAA-er
545 days ago
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I didn't read the article, but did you know that several HUGE corporations make their prospective employees take the very same test?
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BatbSoccer Kid
545 days ago
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No I didn't. But surely you can agree that a test that quantifies mental capacity or knowledge is of greater importance in the business world rather than with pro athletes.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
545 days ago
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95% of this game is half mental, though...
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Manny StilesAAA-er
545 days ago
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Well, Batb, I think you're wrong on your assessment. I don't think the test matters on certain people anyway. You can have an immense drive and obsession to complete detail and still be a general idiot. Look at Frank Lloyd Wright's personal life sometime...

The Wonderlic Test is designed to see if a person can be trusted to use their learned values or natural judgement abilities in critical situations (prett good indicator if a person is a serious test taker or a smart ass). If you don't think test taking translates to sports at all, then you don't understand the human brain much... it's all colors on the same pallate.

Point is, the NFL players ARE employees of HUGE business, so it's JUST as important to both instances.
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BatbSoccer Kid
545 days ago
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Manny, Okay NFL players are employees of a business. A sports business, keep that in mind. Also, I am not saying that test taking does not translate to sports at all. I am merely saying that in a sport like football these talent evaluators put wayyy too much stock into a test like the Wonderlic. If were are talking about baseball which is a cerebral game, than yes, the Wonderlic would perhaps be particularly useful. But for just about any player outside the position of QB, I don't believe mental ability should be a LARGE factor. I agree that it is a factor, but should not be a great one.
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Taytay 24All-American
545 days ago
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Agree with Batb here. QB is the player who most often has to make a snap decision. On most plays, all other players are required to perform one task, which is assigned before the play begins.
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TartanVarsity Captain
544 days ago
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Perform one task assigned before the play? Have you ever played football at anything above Pee-Wee level?
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TartanVarsity Captain
544 days ago
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That is glaringly wrong, one comment just isn't enough. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything.
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BatbSoccer Kid
545 days ago
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haha thanks yogi
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
541 days ago
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Brandon Mebane had a 3.5 GPA and a 980 SAT coming out of high school according to Rivals. http://rival...&Sport=1
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
18 days ago
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Simply put, you don't have to be a genius to play football. In fact, the opposite is true--the IQ of the average NFL player is lower than the population at large. Even at quarterback, what is often referred to as "decision making" is more of a reaction skill, not unlike a predatory fish finding the slowest minnow in the school and eating it--this is not intelligence.
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