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Baylor Unafraid to Show True Selves

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by user ASwaff

I know this article is coming in very late, but this is something I had to get off my chest. In the football game last Saturday between Baylor University and the University of Texas, the Baylor Bears scored a touchdown on their first offensive play of the game. It was a play-action fake that the Texas secondary bit hard on that led to a 67-yard TD pass by quarterback Shawn Bell. To celebrate, the quarterback of the school that brought you cat-skinning as recreation ran down the field flashing the upside down horns sign (recognizable to anyone that has ever played UT in anything).

It was the first time we saw the upside down horns in the game, but it wasn't the last. A handful of times during the first quarter (when Baylor jumped out to a 10-0 lead), Baylor players celebrated big plays or routine tackles with the upside down horns. Normally, that kind of behavior, which for some reason never got flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct for taunting, would anger me. But, this time it just made me laugh.

You see, in the previous four meetings, UT had defeated Baylor by an average score of about 51-4 (cumulative score was 203-14). But that's not why the celebration was stupid. In three of the last four meetings, UT had shut out Baylor. But that's not why the celebration was stupid. The Baylor players were showing up UT in its own stadium. But that isn't even why the celebration was stupid.

The celebration was stupid because it showed a complete lack of class to a school that has done nothing but show respect for its rivals this season. After the game against Ohio State University, I remarked at how surprised I was that there were no brawls before, during or after the game. Believe me - I was there, and the atmosphere was ripe for a brawl. In fact, in a very rare move, UT invited the OSU marching band to perform the script Ohio as part of the halftime show.

That is the kind of class UT has gone out of its way to try and show its opponents this season. And these Baylor players had the nerve to go into the Longhorns' home and show them up like that in the first few minutes of the game. I was surprised at that show of poor sportsmanship, and can only say that it's a good thing they did it to UT. If they'd done it to the University of Miami, the response to the blatant taunting might not have been handled so well.

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M.SmithSoccer Kid
721 days ago
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Yeah, I was at both of those games as well. I couldn't believe the Baylor players were doing it... I'm like, you barely have a shot at a win as is, lets piss off a team that is more talented than us by taunting them after a fast start. Not like it would have mattered either way, but still. There should be a rule against taunting a team if you haven't beaten them since in over 15 years. Something like automatic castration would be fitting.
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ASwaffAll-American
721 days ago
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Haha...I don't know about such a stiff penalty. No pun intended. But there is a rule against taunting. Why it's not taunting to run down the field after a touchdown mocking your opponent's tradition is something I'd still like an explanation about.


But, like I said, I wasn't even angry about it. I just laughed. Like you said - how dumb to you have to be to do something that will only make your opponent (who has owned you since the beginning of time) want to hit you harder?
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M.SmithSoccer Kid
721 days ago
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You are right. that was a bit harsh... I forgot they were from Baylor. If we handed out that punishment, then they would have nothing play with. Haha, just messing, I really have nothing against Baylor, but the jokes are just so easy with their sports programs.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
721 days ago
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i went to baylor, and worked with the football team. believe me when i say that your football team never showed us any class. yes, we may get beat really bad, but do you really have to constantly rub our noses in it like we don't know. like when mack brown commented in a newspaper about how they tried to keep the score low so as not to embarass us...i believe that particular year we lost something like 52-3. yeah, that's sportsmanlike. so yeah, maybe we get excited when we jump out to an early lead. shouldn't it be ok for us to celebrate something that rarely happens. and if you can't handle an upside down horn once in a while, i suggest you stay away from all sporting events involving ut, because i am sure we are not the only ones to have ever done that.
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ASwaffAll-American
721 days ago
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By the way, I acknowledged in my article that anyone who has played UT has flashed the upside down horns. I mentioned it in my first paragraph.
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ASwaffAll-American
721 days ago
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First of all, I've seen them pull starters early in the game and go to the run. He's pulling starters in the third quarter, so don't complain about the score. Secondly, I've got no problem with celebrating. But that's not celebrating, it's showing up your opponent. By all means, celebrate with your teammates. But when I feel excited, I usually give a high five, pump my fist in the air or yell. I don't feel prompted to mock my opponent.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
720 days ago
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Yet again, let me say that running up the score as high as you possibly can and then saying that you tried to hold it down is not classy. It's showing up your opponent by pointing out how bad they really are instead of just letting the score speak for itself. And as someone who was on the sideline for a game in which one of our players was wearing a brace on their knee, and your players repeatedly slashed at said knee, and took every opportunity to hit him illegally in his reconstructed knee...I do not need you to preach to me about what class is. Oh, and also as someone who knows Shawn Bell, it would take you about 2 seconds of talking with the guy to know that he is one of the classiest people around. So I'm not sure how it shows a lack of class when an athlete in the excitement of the moment of scoring a touchdown showed a symbol widely recognized in sports...and is a good natured celebration. Taunting would have been if he went over in a longhorn's face and said something, or did the symbol, or something else. Running down the field to celebrate with his own players is not taunting. Oh, and y'all have a really, really thin skin about that whole upsidedown longhorn thing. Get over it. You don't think that people do an upsidedown thumb when scoring on a&m, or call tech losers for their "L" gun symbol. And for that matter, do you not think that people bring up the darkest points in our school's history when bashing us...like said cat skinning incident, or the basketball tragedy. How would you feel if in speaking of your school, someone always brought up the tower? I'll tell you about class. Class is getting up every weekend to play a game you probably have no chance of winning. Class is putting up with repeated insults about how bad your team is, like it defines your school, or your athletics program. Class is putting up with jerk offs like you who win most football games, but still find the time to take to put down the little guy. So yeah, our football team usually sucks, but I would trade every win in the world to stand beside those guys, because I know how classy they are, and I know what they are made of.
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ASwaffAll-American
720 days ago
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It depends on what you call running up the score. Sorry, but I don't consider it running up the score when you pull your starters in the third quarter and stop passing the ball.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
720 days ago
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it's not about running up the score...it's about saying you tried not to beat us too bad. it makes you look like, oh we're so nice, we tried not to kill them...and us look like more of a joke. it's rude, and unnecessary. you win, we get it. don't try and kick an opponent when they're down. just say, yeah, we won, and that's it. saying you tried to be kind is not kind at all, it's just trying to make yourselves look better. get it? when you win, the sportsmanlike thing to do is keep your mouths shut and move on.
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M.SmithSoccer Kid
720 days ago
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Just to put it in persepective for you anon. Mack Brown is one of the classiest coaches in all of football, college or pros. He always congratulates the other team first and he always pulls the starters during the second half of a blowout. Now, when a reporter asks... Did you try to run up the score to pad your margin of victory in the rankings? (this was back when BCS had MOV in the formula, what is your logical answer? "No, we tried to keep the score low, we don't try to embarass teams." OH HOLY CRAP, how rude!
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M.SmithSoccer Kid
720 days ago
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Plus, you have your own hand motion, aw sick em' bears, BEARCLAW!
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ASwaffAll-American
720 days ago
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I agree with M. Smith. How the heck do you expect him to respond?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
720 days ago
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nevermind, you'll never see a different point of view, because you wish to continue seeing your school as can do no wrong. i wonder if you would be as supportive with a 1-5 record.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
720 days ago
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well, we'll never know, will we

its always fun to see when someone realizes they are done and won't admit it, so they just go for a personal insult instead.

your original point that it shouldn't be a penalty was probably valid by the way. he didn't really do it anyone's face... penalty or not, still stupid.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
719 days ago
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lol...continue seeing them as doing no wrong? I was the first to criticize the program about it's recruiting when players starting having problems with the law. The problem isn't that I see UT as not doing any wrong, the problem is that you aren't able to admit that Baylor did something wrong because your bitterness over their monumental defeats at the hands of Texas makes you think the Longhorns have it coming.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
719 days ago
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i didn't give up and go for a personal insult...nothing about what i said was an insult. and i know my point was valid, that's why i made it. the reason i said nevermind is because sometimes it is obvious that no one is going to change their opinion...and therefore it would be a waste of effort to keep arguing. sorry you took something i said to someone else as a personal insult, but hey, at least it wasn't upsidedown horns
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
718 days ago
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It's a rivalry game. There's going to be unsportsmanlike conduct. Both sides do it. Get over it.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
707 days ago
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Excretion is the better part of Baylor.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
274 days ago
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IN the name OF baylor university shut up that game was baylors way of saying hey we can compete with the best teling ut th we are 100 miles up the road so shut up and get over it
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
274 days ago
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This is Fanatic #6 M. Smith if UT is so classy why do they do more time in jail than in practice Sic em bears Were gonna beat your ass in 08
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