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State of the Franchise: The Green Bay Packers

by Crackajg
created May 16, 2008, last edited June 17, 2008
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At the start of the 2007 season, many were claiming that Brett Favre had made a mistake choosing to come back and play one more year. There was no denying he was once a great player, one of the best QB’s to ever play the game -- but it was common belief that he didn’t have it in him anymore. He was throwing too many interceptions as evidenced by his 2005 and 2006 campaigns. In those two years he threw 38 touchdowns, versus 47 interceptions. His QB rating over that two year span was 71.8, the lowest two year span of his career, and it spawned speculation of his impending retirement.

Favre flirted with the idea, all the while hinting that he didn’t appreciate the Packers’ brass’ lack of enthusiasm for surrounding him with playmakers. Sure he had Ahman Green, but his starts were inconsistent due to injury. Donald Driver was always there, but no one would ever mistake him for a big time number one receiver. Javon Walker flashed some brilliance in 2004, but he then proceeded to miss the entire 2005 season with an ankle injury.

After attempting but failing to acquire Randy Moss and several other high profile players, Favre apparently felt that the Packers were at least trying to surround him with quality players so he tentatively returned for what would turn out to be his final NFL season.

Heading into the 2007, hopes were high in Green Bay because hey, it was Green Bay -- and anytime Brett Favre was your QB, no matter how past his prime he appeared to be, you still had a chance.

Packers fans would not be disappointed.

Many different factors went into why the Packers had such a successful year and the up and coming defense was arguably the most important one. Led by the veteran cornerback duo of Al Harris and Charles Woodson, ever improving young linebacker A.J. Hawk and Packer mainstay linebacker Nick Barnett, the Packers finished the season ranked 11th in total defense. The defensive line, anchored by Aaron Kampman was also a constant problem for opposing offenses. The defense would rank 6th in points given up per game with 18.2.

Another major reason for the Packer resurgence was rookie running back Ryan Grant’s emergence as a capable compliment to Favre’s rediscovered passing abilities. On just 188 attempts Grant would win his way into the hearts of Packers fans and fantasy waiver wire whores alike, rushing for 956 yards and 8 TD’s (averaging 5.1 yards per carry).


Oh, and Brett Favre didn’t have a bad season either. A strong case could be made that Favre’s 2007 season was the finest of his career -- with him passing for 4,155 yards and 28 TD’s (with just 15 interceptions). Even more impressive was his 66.5 percent completion percentage, the best that he has ever had to date. Favre looked youthful surrounded by the many youngsters on offense and more importantly, he looked like he was having fun playing football again. Such a thing is key for someone who went their whole career giving NFL Films A+ comedy material whenever he was miked up during a game.
Who do you think #4 would want taking over his job?
Who do you think #4 would want taking over his job?

The Packers would lose just 3 games during the 2007 season and seemed destined for a fairy tale showdown with the, until then, unbeaten New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. As with many things in life, things didn’t turn out how everyone wanted (well maybe they did in regards to the Patriots losing..) and the Packers would fall to the soon to be world champion New York Giants in a thrilling, chilly overtime NFC Championship game. Both the new, improved Favre and the old and graying Favre would show up for the Championship game, with the aging Favre being the victor in regards to his performance. He looked cold, sore and out of it at times during the game and the second of his two interceptions would clinch the Giants winning OT field goal. Exit stage left, Favre.

At the end of the season, after much speculation -- Brett Favre would retire from the game of football after 17 years of Hall of Fame performances and entertaining clips and highlights. All of Wisconsin (and to a lesser extent John Madden) was floored and distraught by the news. Many thought he would be back but up until the present day, it appears to be not so. It would appear we have seen the last of Brett Favre, sans Madden appearances.

With the exception of the Bubba Franks and Corey Williams departures and Brett Favre’s retirement the Packers team remains relatively the same. The bad thing is that they have an inexperienced quarterback set to try and fill in Favre’s shoes in Aaron Rodgers. He’s thrown less than 60 regular season passes and it’s really anyone’s guess how he’ll turn out. It’s not easy filling in Brett Favre’s shoes and the Packers didn’t make it any easier by drafting Brian Brohm, a very capable quarterback out of Louisville in the second round. Had Brohm entered the draft last year, it was likely he could have gone number one overall. However, even though he had his best year statistically his senior year, his team failed to compete. Add to that a poor combine performance and you have yourself the reason why he fell to the end of the second round, no matter how silly it may seem.

As if Rodgers life wasn’t hard enough preparing to take the reigns in the capital city of football and a skilled young rookie behind him on the depth chart, the Packers decided they needed yet another QB and took Matt Flynn in the seventh round. Talk about getting insurance. While Flynn isn’t really considered a threat for the starting job, it is a head-scratcher on why the Packers brass decided to completely shatter any confidence Rodgers may have kept in the wake of Favre’s retirement and reports of the Packers impending demise.

Poor decisions aside, there has been a Favre backup who has gone on to have a fantastic career: Matt Hasselbeck. While he didn’t take over the QB job in Green Bay, he did become a three time Pro Bowler for the Seattle Seahawks. Obviously, he’s accomplished most of this through hard work and skill but you have to wonder just how much Favre taught his young protégé in the two years he mentored him. Rodgers has had three years to tutor under Favre and to think he hasn’t learned a thing or two would probably make you incorrect.

Having sat on the Packers bench the past three years may have caused people to forget about Rodgers’ skills. I know he hasn’t started in a while, but the kid’s good! Unless he’s been doing absolutely nothing on the sideline the past three years (See: Jared Lorenzen), I think he should be a pretty good QB. I also don’t think Favre is the type who would let him slack off. Joke around and make fun of him? Yes. Sit by and watch him not study and work hard? Absolutely not.

Cue Rodgers’ college statistics!


Year Team Comp. Att. Comp. % Yards YPC TD’s INT’s
2003 Cal 215 349 61.6% 2,903 13.5 19 5
2004 Cal 209 316 66.1% 2,566 12.2 24 8
T o t a l s 424 665 63.8% 5,469 12.8 43 13


Not bad for someone who’s supposed to run the Packers into the ground. If Rodgers can keep his dignity after the draft fiasco the Packers had and focus on playing solid football, he has the talent around him to succeed. Veteran wide receiver Donald Driver is returning for his 31st season and 2007 breakout star Greg Jennings will be back as well. Rodgers will have the opportunity to start fresh with rookies Jordy Nelson and Jermichael Finley. Tight end Donald Lee looks ready to be the number one tight end after an impressive 2007 and rookie sensation Ryan Grant looks ready to continue making huge contributions via the running game.

The offensive line, which also remains relatively unchanged looks to protect Rodgers as they did Brett Favre last year, in which they surrendered a mere 15 sacks for the entire year. The good news is that Aaron Rodgers will be in an opportunity to succeed. The bad news is that every start, hell, every pass will be analyzed under a microscope both locally in Green Bay and nationally. If he can ignore these distractions and play to his skill level, he should be fine. If he plays QB like Aaron Rodgers rather than trying to play QB like Brett Favre, he’ll be fine.


As much as I disagree with the decision by the Packers front office to take two QB’s in the draft to back up one who has yet to play more than seven games, they did cover their ass quite well. Instead of pinning their hopes of a Brett Favre successor on one QB they decided to give themselves options. While this will work out should Aaron Rodgers falter, it’s going to be a slippery slope. It has QB controversy etched with a jagged knife all over it. The decision is either going to work out and one of the three young quarterbacks will grow and become the Packers new franchise QB or it will backfire in their faces and at least two will have started different games before Week 8. A media frenzy would then commence.

The best thing for the Packers to do is keep the job as Rodgers’ to lose. By the end of the pre-season, pick one of them and stick with it for better or worse until you know what you have. If they can stay away from the pitfalls of having too many intriguing options open at all times, they should be just fine. If not, you’re going to be hearing a lot of about the Packers starting quarterback ‘job’ this coming year.


Who do you think should be the starting QB for the Packers this coming season? (2008)
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Falcon02520Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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Crackajg, this series you have going here is amazing. Please don't stop until every team in the league is complete. Great work...
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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Thanks Falcon, I plan on doing exactly that.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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Am i the only one who thinks the Harris-Woodson Combo is a weakness... Woodson is not the same player he once was...and Harris? Well, he's really a 3rd corner and likes to take cheap shots. At least when he was an eagle he did
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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I would say it's their weakest point as a whole on defense. There both getting up there in age... both are over 30, I believe.
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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For the last several years, Harris has been a shutdown corner, JuT. I know you've never really liked him (we've had this discussion before). But even Chad Johnson said in 2006 that Harris was the best in the league outside of Champ Bailey. Isn't there something about the praise of your opponents being high raise indeed?

However, I do agree that the Green Bay corners are aging quickly and Harris was exposed this past season. He has definitely lost a step.

Woodson can still get it done. The knock on him is is propensity for injury. With all the youth at WR (12 players) and DB (8 players), Green Bay should finally be able to get find someone to return kicks so Woodson can focus on staying healthy to play defense.

Blackmon showed some flashes as a punt returner last pre-season. He just keeps getting injured as well.

Their biggest defensive weakness? TE pass coverage. I think the hope is that Chillar can push Poppinga. We'll see.

Their biggest weakness overall? Offensive line. Yes, conventional numbers showed that they did not give up many sacks. I beg to differ a little bit. It seemed that they would have several blown blocks per game and only via Favre's recognition were they able to avoid the sack. His cadence also kept defenses off balance and slowed down the pass rush. These guys still don't understand the intricacies of the zone blocking schemes that McCarthy is trying to implement. The info is old, but I talk a little about the Packers here and here
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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I've obviously seen less of Harris, but when i have, he's done his usual chicken shit pushing

An athletic or fast received blows Harris away and shutdown isn't as far as I'd be willing to go?

The reason Harris never survived as an Eagle was 2-fold, 1 was money and the other was that Harris couldn't survive on an island, something, Sheppard, Brown, Taylor and Vincent could do
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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I think what we have is a situation where you simply don't like his physical style of play. The use of the word "chicken-shit" is a pretty good indicator.

In a league where Irvin got to the Hall of Fame by pushing off and many modern receivers make their living with that style of play, I happen to like a DB who pushes back.

I fully agree to disagree with you on this topic. I don't think I could ever convince you to...not like, but respect Harris and give him his due for several very good seasons. And I know that you'll never convince me that he sucks.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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I'm still languising over quite a few stupid penalties that cost the eagles...

Problem is, Harris's style is dying because it has to...the NFL is giving preferential treatment to offense and pushing by defenders is getting called more and more

And you're Irvin point is dead on, but when Irvin got finished on Eagles turf, my dad summed up his opinion fairly quickly to me (I was 13 at the time):

As the Eagles fans cheered "Looks like Irvin is getting it for every push and all those first down signal celebrations...can't say i feel all that bad"

I don't know, I've always been a fan of playing the game right (which can be indefineble), but guys like Irvin have a tendency to make careers out of pushing the rules and it just doesn't seem right

You call it physical and I call it dirty...I'm fine with that, but Physical DBs are becoming a thing of the past...ask Roy Williams (Safety)
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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anyone else find it ironic that i cited one of the least classy moments in the NFL with my desire for classy players? ; - )
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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Kind of fun fact: Blackmon was in the same draft as Peyton Manning and there was an NFL Films documentary on their different approaches to the NFL. Manning was the first son of football royalty whereas Blackmon had to go through a junior college, then a regular college and then work his ass off at the combine and barely get drafted. It was very good if you ever have a chance to check it out.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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not to dig in too deeper chees, but here's a facinating little chunk from Michael Lombardi of SI

Every season we hear about how Green Bay defensive backs Al Harris and Charles Woodson are shut-down corners. And trust me, both are very good at their jobs, but when the Giants offensive line dominated the Packers front in the playoffs, Harris and Woodson looked like they were no longer shutting down anyone, allowing the Giants to throw for 243 yards. When the Giants offensive tackles could block the rushers of the Packers, this placed the corners in a perilous position.

read it here
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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During the game in question, Burress had 151 yards receiving. That's 62% of the Giants passing offense. Let's be brutally honest and attribute all of those yards solely to Al Harris. I already agreed above that Harris got exposed in 2007 and he is not the same player he used to be. My arguments were based on his performance from earlier in his career. Hell, I'm on record (somewhere around here) saying that I feel his 2008 Pro-Bowl selection is a lifetime achievement award, not based on 2007 performance.
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
49 days ago
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Burress can make a lot of defensive backs look bad.
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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Great article, by the way CrackaJack.
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DeutscherVarsity Captain
49 days ago
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Im not really a Green Bay fan but this was my favourite one so far.
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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Thanks fellas. I just added a poll to the article -- vote!!
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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Trying to steer the conversation? We want to talk about Harris dammit!  :^)
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SbianchiLittle Leaguer
49 days ago
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I really like your article its the best!!! :D LG liked it too.
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CheezerAAA-er
49 days ago
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I voted other.

I think Rodgers should start camp as the number one and the job is definitely his to lose. However, he's averaging an injury every, what, 30-40 pass attempts throughout his career. He just may be a little fragile. With that in mind I have a feeling that at some point during the season Brohm will be getting a start or two.

Also consider that Green Bay has had Rodgers on the team for three years and yet they still draft, not one, but two quarterbacks. It seems to me that he does not have the confidence of the coaching staff. Is it unfair or do they know something we don't?
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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Good points. I'll always remember the game (I don't remember specifics) but he subbed in for a minorly injured Brett Favre. All of Green Bay was anxious to finally get a look at Favre's successor and on the first or second play that he was in he seriously injured his leg. I think he might have even broke it. Favre would come back in a bit later -- I just thought it was ironic with Favre starting for how long and his eventual replacement coming in and not lasting two plays. If I were making decisions for the Packers, I'd want Brohm as the eventual QB of the team but I would definitely give Rodgers his shot. It would be his job to lose.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
49 days ago
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ok...so first of all, Donald Driver nicknamed Rodgers A-Rod...talk about bad omens ; - )

as far as injuries, the Hammy is something to be concerned about, as those injuries can reappear and display future issues

The broken foot was just a typical freak break occurance...not much you can do to prevent it...

Still, i just don't see enough sample

As far as the draft...i think GB just hedged their bets...then again, you never really know
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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All I know is if I were 'A-Rod' I would be absolutely bullshit if they drafted TWO QB's after I'd been sitting on the bench for three years waiting for Favre to finally retire. Whatever's best for the team, though.
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SbianchiLittle Leaguer
49 days ago
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I think you should write your next article on the Cleveland Browns. When can we expect your next article? Great writing style keep up the good work.  :D
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
48 days ago
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Browns? Crack, don't you dare write about the Browns before the Steelers! :-) And if you want to skip over the Ravens altogether, that's fine with me!
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
48 days ago
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I already wrote about the Browns here. But if your requesting the Steelers -- I'll do them next. All one needs to do is ask! :P
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
48 days ago
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Ha! Now I remember that - they ought to be pretty good again this year. Looking forward to the Steelers article! Only five months 'til football season!
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
49 days ago
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Someone actually thinks Brohm should start in 08? That made me chuckle.
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
49 days ago
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Why, what's wrong with him?
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RomiezzoLegend
49 days ago
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Great article, Crackajg. These articles never cease to amaze me. Keep this article series up. I am really wondering what Green Bay is going to do now that Favre is gone. Who are they going to rely on? This creates a great discussion, even though I haven't heard much about it, since it's not being talked about on AGM, and now that the contract with ESPN and my satellite station have ended their contract, and decided not to renew it.
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
48 days ago
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Thanks Romi. Sorry to hear about the ESPN -- as much shit as I give them, I do watch it every night as I go to sleep. Hey, at least you got the Chair still!
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
48 days ago
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Nice job on the article. It will be very odd to see the Packers take the field without #4 at QB. But all good things must come to an end. Green Bay got a Super Bowl out of it and we fans were lucky enough to be able to watch a true football player play great, exhibit grit and sportsmanship and remind us how much fun football is supposed to be!
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CrackajgDiv-I Stud
48 days ago
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Good point. We should all appreciate what we witnessed and accept it as a new era in Green Bay. Who knows, maybe Rodgers will be very good...
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
48 days ago
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No matter what, my hope is that the fans don't hold the fact that Rodgers is not Favre against him. He's cooled his heels long enough. Let's see what the kid can do. God, am I that old that I can refer to pro athletes as 'kids' ?
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OvertheedgeWaterboy
47 days ago
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it would have been nice for the packers to win the super bowl so favre could go out on top, they will be decent this year because their defense but the offense is going to struggle without a vet qb
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TheruffianVarsity
45 days ago
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I think the drafting of the 2 QB's was a move by TT to try to gauge Rodger's competitive nature. A true warrior will strap it up even harder and keep his job. When Favre was here we drafted several quality QB's; Mark Brunell, Aaron Brooks, Matt Hassellbeck, but he never cried about it. He just set a record for the most games consecutively started.
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