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The Beast
I am a 17 year old sports fan living in sunny Burbank, California. I also have my own sports website(http://www.socalsportshub.com/).

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Yakob878
What It Takes To Be # 1

"Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

"There is no room for second place. There is only one place in my game, and that's first place. I have finished second twice in my time at Green Bay, and I don't ever want to finish second again. There is a second place bowl game, but it is a game for losers played by losers. It is and always has been an American zeal to be first in anything we do, and to win, and to win, and to win.

"Every time a football player goes to play his trade he's got to play from the ground up - from the soles of his feet right up to his head. Every inch of him has to play. Some guys play with their heads. That's O.K. You've got to be smart to be number one in any business. But more importantly, you've got to play with your heart, with every fiber of your body. If you're lucky enough to find a guy with a lot of head and a lot of heart, he's never going to come off the field second.

"Running a football team is no different than running any other kind of organization - an army, a political party or a business. The principles are the same. The object is to win - to beat the other guy. Maybe that sounds hard or cruel. I don't think it is.

"It is a reality of life that men are competitive and the most competitive games draw the most competitive men. That's why they are there - to compete. To know the rules and objectives when they get in the game. The object is to win fairly, squarely, by the rules - but to win.

"And in truth, I've never known a man worth his salt who in the long run, deep down in his heart, didn't appreciate the grind, the discipline. There is something in good men that really yearns for discipline and the harsh reality of head to head combat.

"I don't say these things because I believe in the 'brute' nature of man or that men must be brutalized to be combative. I believe in God, and I believe in human decency. But I firmly believe that any man's finest hour - his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear - is that moment when he has to work his heart out in a good cause and he's exhausted on the field of battle - victorious."

--Vince Lombardi

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Meet the Users: Yakob878

by The Beast and Yakob878
created May 09, 2008, last edited May 15, 2008
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Ya, I agree. I'd take Tom Brady over Larry Bird in the clutch.
Ya, I agree. I'd take Tom Brady over Larry Bird in the clutch.

This is the 23rd edition of the popular Meet the Users series, where The Beast will be interviewing a particular ArmchairGM user. The goal for the series is to allow all users to know each other better. The 23rd edition goes to Yakob878.

1. How did you learn about AGM?

Funny you should ask that question. I remember reading over all the articles and that is always the question that opens, it is always open with something like this. “I was writing articles on some other blog and was recruited here by Dan . I actually heard about the site from my friend, you might remember him from his first and only one of two articles, one that hit Deadspin the article was this. He actually was my recruiter to this site. The article was heavily viewed if I remember. It was only his first on the site too. I can’t imagine what he could have developed into if he kept writing. Too bad for all those rips he received on Deadspin and a few anons on this site. That is why he told me he gave up on writing majorly. So not to get too much off topic that is how I learned about Armchairgm.com.

2. After a close call in the first round against the Hawks, are you concerned about the C's?

As most users know here, I'm a pessimist, so yes. I am always worried that my team is going to lose. But, The Celtics should be fine in my opinion. The Hawks were probably one of the tougher matchups the C's could have drawn. A young athletic team that will go down fighting with nothing to lose. Guys like Al Horford and Josh Smith, with Joe Johnson leading the way... that can be a scary combination. The C's probably struggled because of inexperience as a group in the playoffs. Their first series together in the playoffs was the same as most first things: a lot of kinks can be worked out. They got out of that series and should look for nothing but the best from the Cavs, and whoever elsse might or might not come there way in the NBA playoffs. LeBron James is a great player and great players do bounce back. So his performance in the early games in round two might seem low. However, HE WILL GET HOT. So, the C's have to keep playing tough defense and they will be alright.

3. As a Boston sports fan, who would you rather have the ball in the clutch: Tom Brady or Larry Bird?

If I had to choose between either one of them, my answer would have to be Tom Brady. Now this answer has a little controversy behind it in my point of view. One reason is because of my age (I'm a few weeks away from turning 16). I have only had seen one of the two compete in competition. Not that I am stupid and have never heard of Larry Bird. I know right well what he and the other members of the Original Big 3 accomplished in the 80’s, giving the Celts their last championship in '86. Another is the opportunities that arise in any basketball game versus in a football game. In basketball, teams get many more possessions and occur more frequently than those that happen in football. In football, a team can hold the ball for almost an entire quarter, but in basketball, a team has possession for no longer than a minute. The last reason I would pick Brady is because of the great respect I have for the NFL game and all who play it. Not that I don’t respect the NBA, but I have a true passion and love for football. I still enjoy playing basketball, but not as much as football. Tom Brady is a prime example of what I want to be someday. A “Nobody” who will never make it in the NFL, the person who never gives up on their dream and seizes the opportunities when they occur. I was actually in attendance for the game Drew Bledsoe was injured by Mo Lewis and Brady saw his first action in the 2001 season. Also, Brady has already acquired three championships, and I’m not going to even say anything about last season. Bird has three in his career. Brady is at the peak of his career and I am sure of it will achieve at least one more ring in his playing days. So, I pick Brady over Bird even if the reasons are not too great. It's all I can think of because the two are just to great.

4. You seem to have a lot of Vince Lombardi quotes on your user page. Is he the greatest coach in NFL and sports history? Are his ideas still applicable in the modern age of sports?

I knew this one was coming. Vince Lombardi’s speech entitles “What it takes to be number 1” is my motivation in life. I believe Mr. Lombardi is the greatest NFL coach of all time, until someone dethrones him. I say NFL because no two professional sports leagues are the same in my opinion, and any combinations between two different sports just don’t compare all. Now his career postseason win-loss record was 9-1, he won the first two Super Bowls, along with 4 other NFL championships in the 60’s. Now, we all know that I am a huge New England Patriots fan. So, I think this man will ultimately become the greatest coach of all time in the NFL, having a championship trophy named after him. To some, he is the hooded demon... to others, he's the defensive guru. Now please do me a favor and don’t turn this entire discussion into SPYGATE! Now to the speech, I have a few parts that I feel everyone needs to live by. One is “There is no room for second place” You see in the sports and real world, if you are always pessimistic, as I usually am, you do not think many things are possible. So you settle for certain things. However, if you don’t settle, you will find that you have achieved much more than you could have ever imagined in the beginning. Another part is explained in the quote, “You have to play from the ground up – from the soles of his feet right up to their heads, every inch of the body has to be put into it.” Saying in order to achieve glory and success in whatever you do you will never achieve your full potential if your entire mind and every inch of your body is dedicated to the same goal. The last quote I believe in the most important is this “But I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour-his greatest fulfillment to all he holds dear – is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and he has exhausted on the field of battle-victorious.” This is something I believe in a great deal if I am playing a sport, especially football. However, it could be anything in my life, and I see people taking short cuts or complaining, not giving it all I get really angry in the fact that they, in some sense, don’t care and nothing happens to them because of it.

5. You're known by most users for saying, Ya I agree." Where did this come from? Was it just random or did it originate from anything?

Three words have been said by everyone (at least) once before. I made myself known on this site last summer (when I joined) and kept posting the simple phrase “Ya I agree”. I was a kid at home in the summertime bored out of his head, who loved sports and wanted to get a hobby. So I spent a lot of time on this site. I started reading articles and like I’m sure some other users here, when they first came to the site, started scoping it out from a far. I did and wanted to get more involved in the community. So I decided to comment more using the famous quote. The reason was that I am a very cautious person at new things I do and try. I rarely take on new tasks with a great sense of confidence. That is who I am. I did not want to whore points or anything like that, I just wanted to be accepted by the community and not hated for my beliefs on sports, so then I chose the neutral path of saying something no one would be mad at. A few users called me on it and I realized people just cared that if you back up what you say with facts, users will respect you for who you are (for the most part). One user in particular I would like to thank who helped me out of this is Insan, who I hope is going to come back this summer and become active. So I did, and I am glad I listened. He has given me more confidence to give it my all in new things I then went on to the wikifying scandal one at a time that prompted many fan boxes. I think 10 months into my time at this site, I have finally found the correct way to do things: comments editing, and not caring about points, but for the site as a whole to succeed.

  • One thing I don’t know is whether another user has gone through this. I think I went through around 6 phases of my AGM life, wondering if any other user has done something like that. Phases meaning way you spent your time on the site.


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Yakob878MVP
9 days ago
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i stink a wikifying
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RomiezzoLegend
9 days ago
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And "a" adding letters... ;)
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SSreportersHall of Famer
9 days ago
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Insane? I'm sure it's Insan....but being a Cowboys fan I doubt whether or not that was a typo.:) Good interview Beasty, I was wondering why Yakob wasn't interviewed.
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Yakob878MVP
9 days ago
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it was a typo at 11 o'clock last night tryin to finish the q's
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
9 days ago
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i definitely go through cycles Yakob...not sure if its my personal life, professional life or just boredem...
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
9 days ago
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Ya I agree
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
8 days ago
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Nah I disagree
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Yakob878MVP
8 days ago
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ha ha ha
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
9 days ago
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Seriously, I liked your answers to questions 4 and 5. And even though I've only been on this site for a short while, I have already noticed cycles of activity. I don't think I can second your thought about Belichick though. Nice job, guys. And my "ya I agree" above - posted with respect. Keep up the good work.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
9 days ago
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I'd take Brady too, Bird is lefthanded. Not too many successful lefty quarterbacks.
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SSreportersHall of Famer
9 days ago
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Steve Young and um..... I'm in trouble then.
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The BeastAAA-er
9 days ago
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Wasn't Bird right handed?
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Sj-hypocycloidVarsity Captain
9 days ago
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Weren't Zorn and Stabler lefties? They were pretty good QBs. Stabler moreso. He does have a Super Bowl ring after all.
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Xman2008JV Squad
9 days ago
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Todd Marinovich?

Scott Mitchell?
Matt Leinhart?
oh wait...
I just re-read it. You said successful.

My bad
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Xman2008JV Squad
9 days ago
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Micheal Vick was lefthanded.
million dollar talent, refunded brain
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
9 days ago
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Why do I have to explain everything to you guys? The comment about Bird throwing lefty was <sarcasm>. Bird may have been the most clutch player ever, in any sport. To mention Brady and Bird in the same sentence is like mentioning Jacoby Ellsbury in the same sentence with Willie Mays.
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Taytay 24Div-I Stud
9 days ago
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If nothing else, Brady is too dependent on others to succeed, even as a QB. In basketball, Bird has the opportunity to take over a game and carry the team. What if Brady's line is porous? What if the WR drops the pass? What if the RB fumbles? Too many variables in football.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
9 days ago
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Kelsdad, that may be one of the silliest analogies I've seen on this site. Larry Bird is great, but he's no Willie Mays (a complete player who was great at every aspect of his sport and arguably in the top 3 all-time); and Tom Brady is no Jacoby Ellsbury (an unproven rookie who has yet to do anything significant in the Majors except steal bases).

And as far as arguing "clutchness" goes...is there anything more subjective? And what about measuring clutchness of players from the past? How can I really know how clutch Babe Ruth is if I've only seen him in newsreel highlights?

And comparing "clutchness" between football and basketball players is a bit odd. Football is one of the most team-oriented sports. Basketball is one of the most individual-oriented sports. A great basketball player can win a game pretty much on their own. No football player has ever been able to win a game on their own.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
8 days ago
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just...stop... I thought most people considered Larry Bird in the top 3 of all time...or at least the top 5...
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RomiezzoLegend
8 days ago
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He's every white basketball fan's hero, and is in their top 3-5 because he proved that white men CAN jump... that white men CAN dominate in basketball. I don't know why people are underestimating him here. I would pick Bird. The only reason why he won only 3 championships is because of the fact that he had to face Magic Johnson and the Lakers. Were there any other dominating teams in the NFL in the early 2000s (with exception to the Colts)? I don't think so.
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
8 days ago
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eh ehm if you asked me if i'd rather have a Bird Autographed Basketball or a Brady Autographed football, i'd take the basketball
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Steel TownAll-American
8 days ago
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"...a complete player who was great at every aspect of his sport and arguably in the top 3 all-time" You pretty much just summed up Larry bird in one sentence there. Bird over Brady any day.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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OK, Bird was great, and although he didn't have any flaws to his game, he wasn't one of the greatest at EVERYTHING like Mays was. That was the point I was trying to make.

Bird isn't even the best Celtic ever, in my opinion. That would be Bill Russell. And I love Bird. He's my favorite basketball player. I think #33 should be retired by every team in Boston. But he's no Willie Mays.

And I'm not trying to underestimate or diminish Bird here. Just because I don't think he's in the top 3 all-time (Chamberlain, Jordan, Russell) doesn't mean I don't think he's great. He's probably higher on the greatest all-time list in basketball than Brady is in football. I was simply pointing out that Kelsdad's analogy was stupid. But the Ellsbury part was even more moronic than the Willie Mays part.
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
8 days ago
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Bird showed that White men and dominate in basketball? Really? Because last time I checked it was a Minneapolis Lakers player by the name of George Mikan that dominated the game before Bird, before Bill Russell even. White or Black Mikan was the first to dominate the NBA (or ABA).
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
9 days ago
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No
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
9 days ago
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He shot baskets righthanded, but was a natural lefty. He throws lefthanded.
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Yakob878MVP
8 days ago
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another thing people expected him to be great
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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Rawbie, you are a facking idiot. Can always count on you to misunderstand someone's point then coming on and trying to show how much you (don't) know about sports.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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That's a good counter-argument though.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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In order for two people to argue, or debate, one of them has to have an IQ above room temperature, which eliminates you, so why do you insist in trying? Point(s) in fact;
  • I never compared Larry Bird to Willie Mays,
  • I never compared Jacoby Ellsbury to Tom Brady,
  • I never made a statement, either pro or con, on the subject of clutchness,
  • I never asked for your opinion on who was the greatest Celtic player,

Comparing Brady to Bird was stupid. Different sports, for one. For two, Bird is arguably in the top five all time in any sport in "clutchness", Brady isn't even a top ten QB.

Mays is arguably the best all round player of all time, Ellsbury cant even beat out Coco Crisp.

Get it now?
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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Okay, smart guy, in deconstructing your analogy, which I did quite well, I pointed out that the disparity between Larry Bird and Tom Brady was NOWHERE NEAR as vast as that between Willie Mays and Jacoby Ellsbury.

I'll simplify it for you. Let's say we rate a player's all-time greatness on a scale from 1 to 100, with 100 being the best and 1 being the worst. Willie Mays is probably a 99, pretty close to perfect. Larry Bird is probably around 95 or so. Ellsbury, because of his lack of experience, is still around a 5. The difference between Willie Mays (nearly the highest) and Jacoby Ellsbury (nearly the lowest) is monstrous. And I know you think Brady is somehow not a great player, but even you can admit that he's higher on this all-time greatness scale than Ellsbury. Therefore, comparing the difference between Willie Mays & Jacoby Ellsbury, with the difference between Larry Bird & Tom Brady is extremely ridiculous.

Unless of course you're asserting that Jacoby Ellsbury is as good at baseball as Tom Brady is at football. In which case, you've got an extremely difficult argument ahead of you.

Now, as for the rest of your Power Point:

You're not the only person on this site. I believe the matter of clutchness was a question asked to Yakob by The Beast, and was discussed by several other members.

And as for my unsolicited opinion on greatest Celtic ever: I would think that by now you'd realize that I offer my opinions when I want to offer them. I don't care which opinions you ask for.

Now go pretend that the Red Sox don't have faith in Papelbon, and that Tom Brady isn't a great quarterback.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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"..pointed out that the disparity between Larry Bird and Tom Brady was NOWHERE NEAR as vast as that between Willie Mays and Jacoby Ellsbury."

No shit, Sherlock. I was using it as an analogy to point out how bad the Brady/Bird comparison was. Everyone else who read this got it, except you. So stop talking about it now.

Everything else in your comment is pointless, and a poor attempt to justify being a douchebag in your first two. Guess what? It didn't work.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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That's a pretty poor analogy then. If you had picked Manny Ramirez - who is great, but not as great as Mays - that would have made more sense. Instead you chose to connect Brady (2 Super Bowl MVPs, NFL MVP, 92.9 career rating) with Jacoby Ellsbury (70 career hits, 6 homeruns). That goes beyond hyperbole. And that was my original point of contention, that it was a silly analogy. Which you're now admitting by saying that it was a gross exaggeration.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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Brady doesn't belong in the same sentence with Bird, no more so than does Ellsbury with Mays, or Ramirez for that matter.

What the fuck is so hard for your feeble mind to understand, Raw? Stop trying to justify my comparison. So what if you think it was a bad one, who cares? In order to make my point it had to be, it's necessary to emphasize how poor the original (Brady/Bird) was.

Your panties are in a knot because you think I'm trashing Brady or Ellsbury, which I am not.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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How am I trying to "justify" your comparison?

And in order to make your point, you had to use a bad premise? Good strategy. That way you can "prove" whatever you want to prove, I guess. Much easier that way.

And Bird and Brady do belong in the same sentence. For instance: "Larry Bird and Tom Brady are two of the best at their respective sports." If you disagree with that, come up with some sort of counter-argument directed to that specific point, don't construct weightless analogies.

Your point, as always, remains very unmade, Kelsdad.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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Your point, as usual Raw, is pointless.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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Once again, a masterful counter-argument.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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And Kelsdad, do you know how to reply to a specific comment? Your comments in direct response to other comments are always floating around. Notice how everyone else's are all indented and underneath the comment they respond to? Next time, when responding to a comment, click on the little reply link on the bottom left corner of that comment. You'll be indenting in no time!
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JuTMSY4Hall of Famer
8 days ago
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arguing_on_the_internet.jpg
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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It's not an argument, JuT. I'm trying to explain something to someone who doesn't get it, and thinks he's smarter than everyone. I'm done with him now, because, quite frankly, he is, but I appreciate your two cents. Sorry I don't have any change.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
8 days ago
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Whatever happened to that code of conduct thingy? Wasn't there part of that pertaining to personal insults. Because in this thread, I've been called "douchebag," "facking idiot," and now I think that Kelsdad is trying to call me a retard, but it's hard to tell from such a vague and jumbled group of sentences. "I'm trying to explain something to someone who doesn't get it, and thinks he's smarter than everyone. I'm done with him now, because, quite frankly, he is..."
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
8 days ago
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First thing you said all day I agree with, Rawb. You crossed the line there JuT.
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