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L.A is Fake, Kobe is the Real Deal

by SSreporters
created May 07, 2008, last edited June 03, 2008
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Unless you've been hiding under a rock, Manny, LASB, Kels, and myself have had some discussions about whether or not Kobe Bryant is overrated. Manny and Kels think he is overrated, LASB and I believe he is not.

The MVP voting results came in and I'm disappointed Kobe ran away with the award. Chris Paul had a remarkable season, his team is halfway home to eliminating the Spurs, and he had 28 first place votes, while Bryant had 82, Kevin Garnett had 15, and LeBron James got 1. That should've been a closer race, but Bryant still gets his award. The more I look at his numbers and how the Lakers have turned it around in a couple of years, the more I think Kobe deserves the MVP.

He Only Became Good Because of Shaq

I know Shaq won 4 rings and has been to 6 NBA Finals, and the Kobe haters and skeptics think that Shaq pretty much picked him up throughout and as soon as he left he took a tumble. It was true for 1 season, Bryant still made the playoffs (albeit barely) two years in a row with a very weak supporting cast (remember Kwame and Smush Laker fans?). Andrew Bynum did not develop fully in that time, and Kwame was just garbage. He had no center to work with, but along came a guy named Pau Gasol. He has filled in the role of Shaq to the point where I think he is better than Shaq. Bynum's injury is unfortunate, but Bryant finally had a veteran center and the team got the #1 seed in the Western Conference.

Any basketball team nowadays is not going to succeed without a good center. I can take that same Shaq argument and call Dwyane Wade overrated. Wade won MVP of the Finals granted, but Shaq was on the team and the Heat made it to the playoffs all 3 seasons when he was on board (save for this season when he was traded). Wade has done nothing since that and he will continue to struggle because the Heat no longer have a competent center.

Bryant Only Got Better Because He Got Better Teammates

Well I hope he gets better with better players not the team. Do you guys think Kobe is like a god of some sort? When Shaq left, they missed the playoffs, blame Kobe. What is he supposed to do, how is he going to magically turn the ship around? The next year they made the playoffs so out went that argument. When is the last time you have seen a contender that is not the Cleveland Cavaliers have a great team with just 1 good player? I thought so. Better players means a better team, and a better team means the star works with better teammates. The star is Kobe Bryant, and he is clicking with Pau Gasol and Jordan Farmar so effortlessly.

Bryant Did Not Deserve the MVP

That's a tough one to debate. It's highly difficult to argue this one, but I have taken a closer look at Bryant's achievements and yes, he does deserve the MVP award.

But SSR, he's a ballhog. Oh is that so?

Kobe Bryant played and started in all 82 games this season. He took 67 fewer shots this season than last season, in which he played and started in 77 games! He has decreased how many shots he has taken, and had 441 assists and was 19th in the league. LeBron James was 7th in the league yet his team won only 45 games, the Lakers won 57. Well what the heck happened there? This is coming from a SHOOTING guard, not a guard.

He averaged 1.8 steals a game versus 1.4 from last season. Bryant has cut his turnovers down significantly from 2004-05, which was at 4.1. Bryant snagged 68 more rebounds in 2007-08 with 517, a career high.

Finally, He Didn't Turn His Teammates Into Hall of Famers or Great Players at a Minimum

Talk about jumping the gun. This is his 4th year in the post-Shaq era, he still has 4 or 5 years left in him, maybe more, and you expect him to do that when he has continuously witnessed the likes of Caron Butler, Kareem Rush, Smush Parker, and many more leave. This is his first full year with a great team, give him another year and I'll guarantee you he'll make his teammates better.

Rant away guys.


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Manny StilesDraft Pick
79 days ago
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Talk about beating a dead horse...
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
79 days ago
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Can't help yourself sometimes can ya?
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TrizzAll-American
79 days ago
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LMAO i used the same joke on the MLBPA/Bonds article
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RomiezzoLegend
79 days ago
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He is not overrated, and he's not underrated. If I had to pick a side, it'd be "overrated". Why? Well, mainly because many idiots in general (SSR and LASB NOT included) believe that Kobe is the only reason why the Lakers got where they are today. As of this season, the people who voted overrated him, as he won the MVP award over Chris Paul.

You can't say that Kobe hasn't won a championship without Shaq makes him overrated. Shaq was the key part of the Lakers' first 2 championship wins though. He was a leader, and dominated in almost all of their games (at the time). As Kobe gained experience, he shared the dominance with Shaq.

As I read the beginning of this article, I decide to stay more neutral than take anyone's side. Kobe is not underrated AT ALL though. However, there can be an argument made that Kobe can be overrated.
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SSreportersHall of Famer
79 days ago
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Yeah, I think I goofed, it should've read Kobe was not overrated and just put at that.
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OvertheedgeWaterboy
79 days ago
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kobe articles suck
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
79 days ago
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All this Kobe talk makes me want to jump out a window....ENOUGH ALREADY!!! HE WON! DEAL WITH IT!!!
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Taytay 24Div-I Stud
79 days ago
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All this Kobe talk makes me want to jump an Aston Martin.
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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ONR, have you ever had the Kobe beef?:-)
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
78 days ago
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Oh haha Real original
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
78 days ago
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Wait... Kobe WON???
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RomiezzoLegend
78 days ago
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Manny, he was talking about the MVP... not the NBA finals. It's ok. Calm down. </sarcasm>
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
78 days ago
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So does this mean that ManRays is back? Because I haven't seen a facking Rays article since opening day and I'm getting a little pissed.
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RomiezzoLegend
78 days ago
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Breaking news: Someone besides a Rays fan says who cares about the Rays! ;)
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Xman2008JV Squad
78 days ago
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Personally, I thought the vote should have been a little closer, but he won, he deserves it, and that's all there is to it. The award is a regular season award, not a post-season award, so what happens now is irrelevant.

TTFN
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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My Dad just said if Kobe is overrated, everyone else is overrated.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
78 days ago
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Have your dad get a user name, and you take out the trash....
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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(Checks home) No trash here. He lurks around this site but doesn't have the time to blog or do anything like that....yet. Plus he has some health issues I refuse to discuss.
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KelsdadMajor Leaguer
78 days ago
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Probably get an argument from the guys that are underrated.
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa....there are underrated players?
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NBA SuperblogJV Squad
78 days ago
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We in Los Angeles are NOT FAKE. Fake would imply that we do not exist. We prefer PHONY or PRETENTIOUS.
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
78 days ago
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Pretentious Superblogger - mos def pretentious. Slightly condescending too. And you don't have to caps stuff, it's chill
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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It could also be Nancy Grace on this site.


Well THIS JUST IN, a BAAAAAABY, was abducted by HIS FATHER, WHO THEN, LISTEN TO THIS, (Breaks out into Aristocrats Joke).
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
78 days ago
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Thank you for not actually telling the joke SSR. And who ever hit me with the minus can bite my shiny metal ass.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
78 days ago
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Yeah, L.A. isn't fake at all... pardon me as I barely crack open the can of worms you just opened here....


Lead bullets always make sparks, all explosions happen from three angles, heros never die - or even bruise or get sore, for that matter - and the dork always gets the hot girl...


Yeah, L.A. isn't fake at all... not like it's the home of PLASTIC SURGERY! the home of the West Hollywood Tranny or home of the bleach bottle blond...


Southern Cali isn't fake at all... like, gag me with a spoon, totally.


L.A. is a place where a guy can have two extra noses growing out of his forehead and still get laid if he has a fat enough wallet and/or a nice car... failing that a minor bag of coke... not fake at all, eh?


Fake is what the rest of the world calls your "phony/pretentious" - you even make up fake terms to explain the fakeness and make it sound more fakely interesting than it is!!!
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Steel TownAll-American
78 days ago
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Breaking News: Movies are fake.


Getting laid for a fat wallet is hardly unique to LA. There are money grubbing whores everywhere in America. I love this country.
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NBA SuperblogJV Squad
78 days ago
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Not slightly condescending, LASportsblog - SUPER CONDESCENDING
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NBA SuperblogJV Squad
78 days ago
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Oh, and I use CAPS because I feel it is appropriate for my letters to be BIGGER than your letters. Now that is "chill."
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LASportsblogDraft Pick
78 days ago
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That is pretty chill - but.... it's not FLY. And 'I roll with 1 Fly Dude.


This user is a fan of 1 Fly Dude and therefore is also fly.
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NBA SuperblogJV Squad
78 days ago
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LOL! Okay, LASportsblog. But 1 FLY DUDE is from Detroit and WE are Los Angelinos. Therefore, you are my homeboy and I don't think it's a great idea for you to mingle with other townies. Don't turn your back on your people! Now, hit the CAPS button, harshly critique someone's grammar, and COME TO THE DARK SIDE! You will thank me later.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
78 days ago
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I think Kobe is rated just right.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
78 days ago
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By the way, what is Kobe's rating? 96? 12? 52? 9.13? 6492.38202? 4?
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Steel TownAll-American
78 days ago
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It's 72 I believe. But, the AP has him at a way-to-low 61. Effin writers.
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Jerjets11Waterboy
78 days ago
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All this talk about Kobe makes me want to do room service. A very overrated player. Without Gasol, the Lakers would be toast.
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SSreportersHall of Famer
78 days ago
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Which is funny, because they were 32-19 before the trade...and Bynum was injured.
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