I miss you, Manny Ramirez

...and a total of 18 post-season home runs... Of course, Mantle could only play in the world series, so there ya go...and probably more incredibly Manny's hit 24 bombs in 95 games to Mantle's 18 in 65

Counting Division Series or Championship Series homers in a player's postseason total is like counting spring training homers in their regular season total.

Really? I disagree. You make a fine point about all of Mantle's home runs coming during the WS, but both are a victim of circumstance. To rebuke the Divisional and League championship games as mere practice is kind of ridiculous in my opinion, since you need those games to get to the world series...its not like you can just skip them

Like I said, try looking at total games played...which is at least a more accurate barometer of Home run occurrence...Mantle was hitting a home run practically every 4th world series game, while Ramirez is closer to one every 6 (or once every series)

Not even close.

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How dare you even ask it.

Numbers? Are you kidding? Numbers say whatever you want them to.

Here's some numbers for you to look up - How many Triple Crowns has Manny won? How about MVPs?

Ask Joe Torre who was better. Ask anyone who ever saw them both play and you will get quickly dismissed as a young, foolish punk. Hell, watch some video of Mantle yourself.

If Mantle played 'today' with the advances of modern medicine (Knee surgery) and advances in psychological therapies (alcoholism), he'd likely be the first player with 800+ HR...

Ramirez might be a Hall of Famer, but if you had to cut the Hall of Fame down to ten players Mantle would be in and Ramirez wouldn't be in the discussion at all.

To say Ramirez is a better hitter than Mantle is like saying Pete Rose was better than Ty Cobb. Hey, the "numbers" say so...

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Oh and no one is better than Ty Cobb. ;]

Hmmm, Cobb...Career leader in average (with an open handed grip), .08 ahead of Hornsby at # 2 and well over .30 ahead of the active leader; Albert Pujols For the record Manny Ranks 78th on that list, while Pujols is 24th and Cobb is .50 ahead of Ramirez

Not just any Yankee... Come on, it's the Mick!

I've been wildly defensive of Don Mattingly in the past - remember the debate when I said Donnie Baseball was a better player in every facet than Jeff Bagwell?

You should hear me laud the (baseball) talents of the Greatest Yankee of them all - Yogi Berra - sometime.

I'll also never say an evil word about Lou Gehrig - the best pure hitter in baseball history - either.

Home Run Baker, Bill Dickey, Joe Dugan, Bob Meusel, Dave Winfield, Alex Rodriguez, Graig Nettles, Reggie... all the Yankees before 1920... I can argue on each of their behalf

That's more Yankees I can defend than Red Sox (Ted Williams and .... um, ....Tris Speaker? Jimmie Foxx? Cy Young? Uhh.... not-a-HoFer, Jim Rice )

Cough, cough... "some people" don't agree... of course this is the same "some people" who think Harold Baines deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

And Fred McGriff....

Fred McGriff should get in as a coach, at least. How many Major League Superstars in trucker hats have helped young mean win back to back to back AAU titles?

maybe if manny played in the 1950s he'd only play 154 (?) games...

Maybe he'd not be able to take August's off?

Maybe he wouldn't benefit from modern medicine?

Maybe baseball wouldn't have been as lucrative

Maybe he'd face different pitching

Maybe during Mantle's two best home run seasons (where he hit over 50), no one else was even within 10...

this could go on...

And thoise things aren't measurable by numbers are they?

If Manny would have played in the 50's (pre-expansion days) he wouldn't have faced a thinned pitching pool, smaller parks or been able to hit tighter wound balls with denser bats that have thinner handles, would he? If Mickey played today, he would be an potential 40-40 candidate - because they didn't steal in his era like they do now.

Like I said, take a look at Mickey. Ask someone who saw him play. He was considered by many to be superior to Willie Mays and only a fool would take Hank Aaron over Mantle straight up.

Mantle was a better hitter from BOTH sides of the plate, a better baserunner, a smarter baseball player and DEFINITELY a better fielder than ManRam. Mantle hit the longest MEASURED HR of all time. Ramirez took his money and ran...

It's nice that the bloated numbers of this era (Hello, is Gary Sheffield as good as Gehrig? They both have 493 HR... Is Frank Thomas better than Ted Williams? They both have 521 HR! Is Jim Thome better than Jimmie Foxx???) can help you form an argument but it's akin to saying George Bush was more popular than Abraham Lincoln just because more people voted for Bush...

Applying that...in today's world would Mantle have the batting average of Adam Dunn with the home run numbers of a (juiced) Barry Bonds?

No, Mantle's numbers would make Albert Pujols' look like Chip Schumacher.

Not if you're a Duke fan.

According to BaseballReference... 6'3".

rhetorical question, Romi...

Oh, my bad. I just saw your question at the very end. I'm catching up with the conversation... and I finally get why you said that. ;)

He's a lot shorter without the head...

Hey... you could. Mantle MAY have the power numbers, but aside from that, Pedroia is on the verge of ending his career with a better batting average than Mantle (.308-.298). </sarcasm>

Ryan Howard's on pace to shatter the all time home run record...

If he plays until he's 53 years old, that is...

And the all time strikeout record, too.

He has (had) nicer hair?

He hi-fives fans better?

He made more money?

Paul Simon never forced him to embarass himself in on eof his videos?

His baseball cards are easier to acquire?

Manny is a more "man"ly name than Mickey?

He can pull off a pair of Oakley thumps better?

Mickey being Mickey was pointless without Billy (Alfredo Manuel) Martin being drunk first?

Manny had big Papi, Mantle had .... Maris? No contest!!!