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2me's NL East Preview

by 2me
created March 28, 2008, last edited June 03, 2008
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Last September, the Mets pulled of one of the greatest collapses in baseball history—losing 12 of their last 17 games and blowing a 7 game lead with three weeks to go in the season.

The NL East should be a tight race again this season, and though the Mets are the pre-season favorites, they should have fierce competition from Atlanta and Philly. If Florida or Washington win the division I vow to get “Timberlake’s Bitch” tattooed on my forehead.

1. New York Mets
2007: 88-74, 2nd place
2008 Projected: 92-70

One pitcher won’t carry a team, but if Johan Santana was a Met last season, you can bet your big apple the Mets would have turned one of those twelve losses into a victory and an NL East crown.

When healthy, the Mets will have one of the best pitching staffs in the NL. But Pedro Martinez and Orlando Hernandez are fragile old men who will be lucky to have 35 starts between them. So, as a collective unit I will call them Orpedro.

Along with Santana and Orpedro, the Mets have quality starters in John Maine and Oliver Perez. Perez finally showed some consistency last season and the Mets are hoping Maine can do the same this year after having a superb first half in 2007.

Though both are former All-Stars, Carlos Delgado and Luis Castillo have seen better days and make up the oldest starting 1B/2B tandem in the NL. On the other side of the infield, David Wright and Jose Reyes are budding superstars.

With Carlos Beltran roaming centerfield, it won’t matter what two scrubs are in the corner spots. The scrubs of choice appear to be Moises Alou and Ryan Church. Alou will miss half the season with various injuries that can’t be cured by urinating on one’s hands, and Church is the Mets x-factor. He’s still young and has the potential to be a 25HR/90RBI type player. Look for the Mets to poach an outfielder in mid-season from a struggling team like Pittsburgh or Kansas City.


2. Philadelphia Phillies
2007: 89-73, 1st place
2008 Projected: 87-75

The Phillies big off-season transactions were signing 3B Pedro Feliz and RF Geoff Jenkins, which is exactly why they won’t win the NL East. Their 13 th ranked pitching staff from a year ago has more holes than a Tijuana donkey show and should have been goal #1 to upgrade over the winter. Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, and the ageless wonder Jamie Moyer will have to carry the starting staff which could be tough if Moyer decides to start collecting Social Security.

Ryan Howard, Chase Utley , and Jimmy Rollins give the Phillies the best infield in baseball, but they’re going to need a lot more offensive help from the likes of Pat Burrell, Feliz, and Jenkins if they hope to compete with the Mets and the Braves.


3. Atlanta Braves
2007: 84-78, 3rd place
'2008 Projected: 86-74

Eleven straight NL East titles from 1995 to 2005 made the Braves the class of the National League. With a little luck this season, they could give the Mets a run for their money. John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, and Tom Glavine are consistent, proven winners and should carry a staff that might include the return of Mike Hampton. Hampton, in case you didn’t know, has been paid $30 million over the past two seasons to not pitch an inning. I, on the other hand, have been paid $0 to not pitch an inning.

The Braves took a big hit when 5 time All-Star Andruw Jones signed with the Los Angeles Dodgers, but they brought in Mark Kotsay to fill some of that void. That puts the bulk of the offensive load on Mark Teixeira, Chipper Jones, and budding stars Jeff Francoeur and catcher Brian McCann.

4. Florida Marlins
2007: 71-91, 5th place
2008 Projected: 78-84

The one thing the Marlins have going for them is they play the Nationals 18 times. For real baseball fans in Miami (all seven of you), it could be a fun season to watch the young talent they’ve stockpiled over the past couple years. Hanley Ramirez and Dan Uggla might be the only two names you recognize in the starting line-up but the Marlins definitely have some future stars who’ll they’ll trade away in 4 years for more prospects.

One name to watch for is Andrew Miller, the first round draft pick the Tigers gave up in the Cabrera/Willis trade. Miller was the centerpiece of that trade for the Marlins and is being rushed into Majors after less than two years in the minors.

5. Washington Nationals
2007: 73-89, 4th place
2008 Projected: 68-94

If you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Ok…I can’t resist.

With the exception of Ryan Zimmerman, the Nationals are stocked full of has-beens, almost something’s, and never will be’s. Outfielders Lastings Milledge and Elijah Dukes both top prospects a couple years ago for the Mets and Devil Rays respectively, are looking for a fresh start with the Nationals this season. Both are talented but come with a truckload full of baggage.

If you recognize more than two names on Washington’s starting pitching staff then you probably work for the Nationals. They’re holding open tryouts to the public on Saturday. See you there.



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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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'Ryan Howard, Chase Utley , and Jimmy Rollins give the Phillies the best infield in baseball, but they’re going to need a lot more offensive help from the likes of Pat Burrell', Feliz , and Jenkins' if they hope to compete with the Mets and the Braves.

???

They had the best offense in the league, lost Rowand and added Jenkins as a replacement...lets be honest, he should provide comparable stats...and they added feliz, who's an upgrade over Helms/Dobbs (or as you'd call him, Hobbs)

On top of that, their biggest offseason transaction would be brad lidge...which moves myers to the rotation...so...yep, that would be they added pitching, the number one concern as you say.

The 4th and 5th spots in the rotation are big question marks, i agree, but think about this: When all is said and done, who wins more games; Hamels, Myers and Moyer or Santana, Martinez and Maine?...honestly, its ridiculously close...

Now the phils bullpen, that's intereting...the Romero-Gordon-Lidge connection could go from real bad to "wow, that's an awesome 7-8-9"...
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2meSoccer Kid
196 days ago
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I don't trust Myers as a a #2 starter, but maybe he'll surprise me this year --and Moyer's gonna have a 5.00+ ERA in that ballpark, so they better score runs for him. Lidge could prove to be a great pick-up, but I don't think he's ever recovered from his 2005 post season melt down. The Braves might surprise us all this season...
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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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i mentioned this somewhere else as well, but i'll say it here...

You can mock jamie moyer's 5 ERA all you want, but that fact of the matter is, he's got the best offense in the league behind him and has pitched practically 200 innings a season since 2001 and over 150 IP since 1997. I think he'll be a little better this year, but let's not split hears...

And why don't you trust myers? What has he done you make you think, "wow, this guy is gonna be awful"...is it the 1.6 ERA in the spring?
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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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i say practically 200, because last season he only had 199.1 ; - )
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
194 days ago
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A 5.00 Era in Citizen's is a 3.50 elsewhere...
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Ccampbell34All-American
194 days ago
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Don't trust Myers? Apparently you've never seen him pitch. He had two bad starts last year but I guarantee he would have had a strong season as a starter last year if the bullpen hadn't been in shambles.
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Kip WingerLittle Leaguer
194 days ago
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Myers only had 3 starts last year.
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JuTMSY4Legend
194 days ago
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yeah, myers spent most of last year as a closer
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Ccampbell34All-American
193 days ago
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I'm well aware he was the closer. I'm arguing the point that he IS a solid 2. If he had remained in the rotation last year, there wouldn't be any doubt whatsoever.
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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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And, i really enjoyed your evaluation of the marlins...
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2meSoccer Kid
196 days ago
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Moyer would make a great #5 starter. In fact, I'd be thrilled to have him as a #5 starter on my team--but I'd also be happy to skip his start when it was possible in the schedule. Don't get me wrong, he's a class act and freak of nature at 45 years old. But if he's the team's #3, then I'm scared. Myers is a decent #3 or #4 starter and again, not a #2. I don't put a lot of faith in Spring Stats either--Bengie Molina hit .452 this spring...pretty good for a career .275 hitter.
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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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you wanna qualify any of your statements?

Brett Myers as a #4? Are you serious? You can't simply state something you believe one thing without any type of support...

I gave you, what i consider, a pretty good rational for Moyer being a pretty good pitcher. Any you said yourself, he pitched in CBP, which has a tendency to inflate ERA's...

I bet if you deflate those numbers you'd get: 4.76 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP...

wait, those are Tim Wakefield's numbers?!

and that .275 avg for molina would qualify him as the 6th best catcher...its pretty good for the position...
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Phils Phan ScottWaterboy
196 days ago
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So the Phillies added a starter (Myers), added a closer (Lidge), added more pop to an already devastating lineup (Feliz and Jenkins), and they'll finish two games below their win total from a year ago when they were ravaged by injury? The Mets have questions marks in left field, right field, catcher and ever first base. Does Johan hit? And when was Oliver Perez consistent? You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't get it.
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JuTMSY4Legend
196 days ago
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Santana over glavine adds roughly 7 wins...but he's never faced lineups as potent at the Phils and (gulp) Braves...

How good is the phils offense...Adam Eaton (6+ ERA) and Jamie Moyer (5+ ERA) both had winning records...

Moreover, how many additional wins could the phils get from a healthy Hamels and myers...or even...dare i say it? Adam Eaton?
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2meSoccer Kid
195 days ago
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Don't mess with Philly, I guess! Bottom line is, I don't think the Phils are better than the Mets...but it's a close +/- 2 games. I would love to be proven wrong come October because I don't like the Mets. Spring stats don't mean much...look at Utley--he's a legitimate MVP candidate and he only hit .226 this Spring. Myers isn't a bad pitcher by any means, but he's not a solid #2. I wouldn't be surprised if Philly added a top tier pitcher mid-season.
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Kip WingerLittle Leaguer
194 days ago
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I never mess with Philly. in fact, I don't mess with Pennsylvania in general.
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JuTMSY4Legend
194 days ago
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Sorry, but they won't be adding a top tier pitcher any time soon...they don't have the farm
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Tmil42Draft Pick
194 days ago
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Even if they did, the best pitcher being dangled for a trade in Joe Blanton. So yeah, they won't be adding a top-tier pitching.
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Ccampbell34All-American
194 days ago
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unfortunately I think Eaton's spring stats are pretty accurate
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
194 days ago
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Maybe not top tier, but there will be a number of #3, 4, and 5 starters who will be available at the trade deadline if teams like the Phils, Mets, Cubs, etc. need one. Paul Byrd, Jason Jennings, Matt Morris, and Odalis Perez are all free agents after this season. If the Indians and Brewers out of contention, you might see Sabathia and Sheets available. If I were a GM in need of a #5 starter, I might be interested in Woody Williams who was just released today. And if you want to scrape from the bottom of the barrel, call KC and see how many 6-packs it will take to pry Brett Tomko away.
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2meSoccer Kid
194 days ago
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apologies...the above comment by Anonymous #1 is me. for some reason my session timed out.
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JuTMSY4Legend
194 days ago
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perhaps, but you need prospects to deal, i dunno about the cubs, but the mets and phils don't really have that...
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