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2008 MLB Rankings--Starting Pitching

by Fightingchancefantasy
created February 14, 2008, last edited April 11, 2008
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  1. Johan Santana—NYM — Since 2004, no one has been as dominating as Santana, as he won two Cy Young awards in that time. From ’04 to ’06 he averaged 18 wins, 230 innings, and almost 250 strikeouts to only 48 walks. He stumbled a bit last season (a season most other pitchers would take in a heartbeat), but between moving to the NL, and getting on a team that actually scores some runs, 2008 could be a HUGE year for Santana. It is possible for him to hit 20 wins for the second time in his career, and approaching 300 strikeouts is within reach. Only two concerns come with Johan. One is he has logged so many innings over the past four years, it is possible an injury could pop up. Second, the Mets have had a knack for getting great new players who seems to under perform once they hit Flushing. I don’t see either happening, Santana is a no brainer as the first pitcher off the board.
  2. Jake Peavy—SD — Peavy won the pitcher’s triple crown last year, as he led the National League in wins, ERA, and strikeouts. Peavy has a dominating fastball and a slider that often has some unhittable break on it. Being in San Diego is both a blessing and a curse. His home ballpark is very spacious, keeping many balls in the yard. The curse comes from the Padres offense. Many times Peavy will end up with a loss or no decision simply because the Pads couldn’t score. Peavy only gave up more than three runs five times last season as he mowed down NL hitters. His is just one year removed from a sub-.500 record and 4.00+ ERA season, however, I believe it was just a blip on his career. Although he usually doesn’t excel in the wins category, Peavy is superb in all others and should be the second pitcher taken.
  3. Brandon Webb—ARI — The 2006 NL Cy Young award winner had another successful season in ’07. In fact, Webb was even better, as he collected three more wins, 16 more K’s, and his ERA dropped. Webb goes deep into games, and his 3.01 ERA was second behind Peavy. He neared 200 strikeouts, while keeping his home runs (12) down with quite possibly the best sinker in the MLB. Well in his prime, and with a young, improving team, Webb’s numbers should remain among the NLs elite. It isn’t unrealistic to expect 17 wins, 185 K’s, with a 3.10 ERA and 1.20 WHIP.
  4. C.C. Sabathia—CLE — The ’07 AL Cy Young winner had a spectacular season, making it two straight among the majors’ best. He was second in wins with 19, and struck out over 200 batters to only 37 walks. Although his weight has always been a concern (290 pounds), Sabathia has turned himself into an ace in Cleveland, and he won’t turn 28 until July. He topped 15 wins for the first time since he was a rookie, and now that the Indians appear to be contenders into the future, Sabathia’s win totals should remain high.
  5. Josh Beckett—BOS — After struggling mightily in his first year in Boston, it appears Beckett has the American League figured out. Beckett powered the Red Sox to their first division title in quite a while, and then was nearly perfect in leading them through the playoffs. Continuing his career on a championship caliber team can only help Beckett’s numbers stay at an elite level. Don’t expect him to win 20 games again, but 17 wins, 180 K’s, 3.20 ERA, and a 1.20 WHIP keeps Beckett as one of the top pitchers in fantasy

The Next Five

  1. Erik Bedard, SEA
  2. Cole Hamels, PHI
  3. Aaron Harang, CIN
  4. John Lackey, LAA
  5. Justin Verlander, DET

Rising Star: Justin Verlander—DET - Maybe he has already risen, but Verlander is one of the more exciting pitchers in baseball. This highly touted prospect has not disappointed fans in Motown, to the tune of a 35-15 record in his two seasons. He reached much higher strike out total in 2007, along the lines as what was expected from a guy that routinely hits 100 on the radar gun. Verlander showed that he arrived last season, when he pitched a no hitter against the Milwaukee Brewers. Verlander could be a 20 game winner this season if things break well for him, and he will be spoken about as one of the elite by the end of this year.

Also deserving consideration: Fausto Carmona, CLE.

Falling Stock: Barry Zito—SF — The Cy Young award he received in 2002 seems a long way away. Zito has never been able to recapture the magic from that 23-5 season. Outside of his contract year (how convenient!), Zito has been a .500 pitcher. After signing a 7 year/$126 million contract Zito went out and had his worst season as a pro. Zito’s strikeouts have dropped, his ERA has risen, and quite frankly, his team stinks. Stay away from Zito, his best days are in the rear view mirror.

Also deserving consideration: Mike Mussina, NYY.

Make or Break Year: Dontrelle Willis—DET — Once thought to be one of the bright young arms in the majors, the shine on Willis has started to fade. If you really look at Dontrelle’s career, he’s only had two good seasons. Outside of his rookie year and 2005, Willis has been rather ordinary. He always goes out every five days and gives you plenty of innings, but has been prone to the long ball, and the long inning. On the plus side, Willis is finally out of Florida and on a team that actually wins games (and has more than 50 people in the stands). Dontrelle needs to prove this year that his 5.17 ERA and inflated 1.60 WHIP were the exception, not the rule to his career. However, I am starting to doubt that.

Also deserving consideration: Daisuke Matsuzaka, BOS. Is he worth all that money?

Risky Pick: Rich Harden—OAK — When Harden has been on the mound, he has been dynamic. However, that has been his problem. Harden has only been on the mound 16 times in two years, and unfortunately can’t seem to stay healthy. It has gotten to the point where Harden needs to put a good, long stretch of good health to get back on fantasy owners good side. In the last round or two he is still worth a flyer, there are reports he has been throwing this week and feels “great.” We’ll see how long that lasts.

Also deserving consideration: A.J. Burnett, TOR; Ben Sheets, MIL.

Top Prospect: Yovani Gallardo—MIL — Gallardo was one of the best prospects to come out of Milwaukee since Ben Sheets, and barring a few horrendous games in August, Gallardo did not disappoint. His strikeout rate was slightly below what he had in the minors, but how do you keep up 110 K’s in just 77 innings? Many expect the Brewers to compete for the division crown, and if they do Gallardo has to be a big part of it.

Also deserving consideration: Tim Lincecum, SF. On a better team, he’s ranked higher.

As always, your questions (adds, drops, trades, draft questions, etc) and comments are welcome at fightingchancefantasy@gmail.com. I guarantee a response within 18 hours.

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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
236 days ago
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I've got Bedard at number 3, and I know a lot of people agree with me on that. I know Webb and Co. are good, but for me Bedard just has too much stuff to pass up.

I like Linecum a lot too. I'll be gunning for him in my drafts...

Best low risk/high reward pick: Francisco Liriano
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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Out of curiosity...

WHY is everyone so high (on Bedard)? If it's because of "fantasy" numbers - here's a lesson from a former stockbroker - stop chasing results.

It's not like teams were worried about facing him with the Orioles last year. I think his numbers will regress to the mean with more focus and pressure on him. LOTS of pitchers do well when no one is scrutinizing them...

If it's because you think he really has that good of stuff - why didn't Seattle have to give up more to get him? I know Baltimore isn't the smartest franchise in baseball, but... (I won't badmouth Adam Jones or his Mom will post comments on here again)

Personally - sure, Bedard's a lefty but there are legit concerns with his durability and I don't think he's even the best starter on his team, let alone his division or top 3 in the AL, let alone MLB.

Just one guy's opinion (a guy that has spent a lifetime analyzing the great game)...
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KelsdadAll-Star
236 days ago
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Bedard's not even the best pitcher on his own team You guys ever hear of King Felix?
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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exactly.
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
236 days ago
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I'd actually put Beckett over Sabathia, as Beckett is more consistently good. Of course C.C. will be awesome, but fantasy-wise..
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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I'm a big dude (6'6", 270) and standing next to Sabathia in person made me realize how big a dude I almost am!

When you have a frame like C.C.'s (and a big ole' butt) 290 isn't as bad as it sounds. Dude is an athlete, make no mistake -He's no David Wells or Bartolo Colon!

Pitchers actually are better when they're on the fatter side - skinny dudes generate less force and have less mass to distribute the torque of pitching - it's physics!
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FightingchancefantasyJV Squad
236 days ago
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Felix has had a lot of hype, but not a lot of wins to go with it, or an impressive ERA, Bedard has had a couple of pretty decent years.

Beckett and Sabathia have both had a few good years, but Beckett has had a bunch of .500 seasons. Granted he played in Florida, but in the recent past Cleveland wasn't so hot either. I could've gone either way with them I believe Sabathia has been slightly better lately

Now in the playoffs on the other hand, it's no comparision.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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Wins have little to do with a pitcher's performance - see: Nolan Ryan - 1986

Bedard and Hernandez' career numbers aren't far apart except in one category - AGE. Seven Years difference!!!

Gee, who is more likely to get better this season? The 29 year old coming off of a career year or a 22 year old who hasn't had a career year yet?

They call these things "no brainers" for a reason, you know!
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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And in the last 2 years, 2 (TWO) wins separates them in the exact same number of starts.
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FightingchancefantasyJV Squad
236 days ago
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There's not a big difference in wins, but check out their ERAs and strikeouts, and even WHIP and there is a decent sized difference between them. When their careers are all said and done, Felix may blow Bedard away, but right now, Bedard has outperformed King Felix.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
236 days ago
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Career WHIP - 1.29 - 1.34

Career K/9 - 8.1 - 8.7

Career ERA 3.94 - 3.83

Career winning % - .545 -.541

Doesn't matter which one is who, those are subtle differences.

We both agree Felix will get better too (especially since he was the 4th youngest player in the league this year) so wouldn't it make sense to grab the guy on the rise over the guy on the plateau especially when the older guy has durability issues, has never had to deal with expectations and is a lefty going to a division stocked with righty bats???
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Falcon02520Legend
236 days ago
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Webb isn't even the best pitcher on the D-backs anymore... does the name Danny Haren ring a bell?
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Falcon02520Legend
236 days ago
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Francisco Liriano will be interesting to watch this season...
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FightingchancefantasyJV Squad
236 days ago
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Love Liriano but could disagree more with Haren. He was basically a .500 pitcher before last year, then got off to a good start and ended the year going 2-6, while Webb went 8-2. Give me Webb any day.
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
236 days ago
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Is Liriano completely healthy?
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FightingchancefantasyJV Squad
235 days ago
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Supposed to be. I haven't seen anything that said he won't be ready yet. Has anyone else?
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KelsdadAll-Star
235 days ago
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Yes, and he won't.
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Falcon02520Legend
235 days ago
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I thought he is supposed to start pitching during spring training. What is the whole story?
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KelsdadAll-Star
235 days ago
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He just started throwing, long toss. He hasn't pitched off a mound yet. Best case scenario is either extended spring training then a minor league stint and in the ML around June 1. Obviously we don't know worse case yet because he hasn't started pitching yet, if he has issues (which there almost always are) then depending on those issues he could go past the All-Star break.
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Falcon02520Legend
235 days ago
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Wow... so essentially he could have gone from a break-out rookie season to not even pitching for a almost two years Any chance he will end up like Mark Prior? or will be be able to bounce back? (just your opinion)?
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InThaKnowDraft Pick
234 days ago
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Liriano has been throwing bullpen sessions since October of 2007. In January he was throwing bullpens, live batting practice and long toss. He threw fastballs, change-ups and a few sliders. He is definitely throwing. Whether his elbow holds up is a different story, but the guy has been throwing.
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KelsdadAll-Star
234 days ago
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Where?
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InThaKnowDraft Pick
234 days ago
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here is some of what rotowire has on him http://www.r....htm?ID=7158
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KelsdadAll-Star
235 days ago
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I know he had some post surgical problems in his rehab but to what extend I don't know. So that answers at least part of his delay.

A good friend of mine is a physical therapist who I know from working with the Mariners. He said the taller the pitcher the less likely they will come back because of the extra strain and arm speed they generate. It's kind of like 6'2" Tiger Woods swings a golf club 150 mph and 5'10" Fred Funk swings it 110.

Shorter, compact pitchers like, well, Tommy John who don't throw hard or have good mechanics have no concerns. Big guys with hard, violent deliveries have problems, like Eric Gagne, who has actually had Tommy John twice.

Prior hasn't had Tommy John, his problems have been shoulder related, so it's hard to say.
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