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Adam Vinatieri has lost his magic

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by Suckatsports

When he was in New England, he seemingly made every single big kick, no matter the weather or distance. With that kind of magic kicking, the Patriots were able to ride his clutch foot to a pair of Superbowl wins.

As he came to the Colts, he apparently took his magic clutch foot with him. With him at the helm of the kicking game, he injected an aura of confidence that emotionally propelled them to the Superbowl. The magic pills he was taking finally ran out, as Vinatieri missed a chip shot field goal to win an improbable game for the Indianapolis Colts to complete an unimaginable comeback.

When I decided to take a nap, the Chargers were comfortably up 23-0, and through my sleepy haze, Al Michaels told me that Peyton Manning has already thrown four interceptions - and the first half was yet to be over. Antonio Cromartie was filling out his Hall of Fame resume as he picked off Manning three times himself, rounding out a pretty good several weeks for the backup corner filling in for Quentin Jammer.

I wake up with over two minutes to go and needed a double take for the score: 21-23 Chargers, with the Colts on the better 20ish yard line. Peyton Manning had obviously worked some kind of improbable magic to bring his team back, and his team was clearly going to take the lead no matter how inconceivable the outcome seemed just 40 game minutes ago. They ran Joseph Addai to what looked like a first down at the six yard line.

What followed was as amazing chain of events as ever seen in a football game. The spot was reviewed and correctly changed to be inches short of a first down; the Colts lined up to draw the Chargers offsides, or run more time off the clock, or both. They accomplished neither as they were called for a false stat on one of the oddest and worst calls I've ever seen. With that said, they lined up for an extra-point like 29-yard field goal only to have Vinatieri push it right and miss the game winning opportunity. After a few futile attempts to get the ball down field with 20 seconds left: Chargers 23, Colts 21.

With what happened, I'm not sure if this is an indictment on how far the Chargers have fallen under Norv Turner, or how amazing Petyon Manning has become. He brought the Colts back to the brink of winning with 15 healthy bodies on the offensive side of the ball and not one receiver I can name off the top of my head. At the same time, on the opposite sideline, Norv Turner and Philip Rivers are squandering some of the best talent assembled on a football team. These are two teams, two quarterbacks, and two coaches looking in completely opposite directions. Just because the Chargers won, it doesn't make the noose around Norv Turner's neck any more loose.

Can we stop pretending Vinatieri is a good kicker? [AOL Fanhouse]

This post is cross published from We Suck at Sports.


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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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"With what happened, I'm not sure if this is an indictment on how far the Chargers have fallen under Norv Turner, or how amazing Peyton Manning has become."

Wait a second, I thought the Chargers won and the Colts lost. How does a 6 interception game demonstrate "how amazing" Peyton Manning is? I don't care how many players are hurt, 6 picks is 6 picks, and they were all bad throws. And haven't the Chargers come back from a horrible start to be 5-4 and once again be contenders?

The Peyton Manning ball washing continues to baffle me.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
334 days ago
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To be fair, they weren't all his fault last night. His recievers let him down a couple times.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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missed/tipped catches and wrong routes generally suggest that the receivers suck...
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Steel TownAll-American
334 days ago
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Even more baffling is the Eli and Archie ball washing. But, they are all equally annoying.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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and equally bad?
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SSreportersLegend
334 days ago
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1. Norv Turner sucks, if Marty Schottenheimer was there, they'd win by 23 points. 2. Peyton Manning threw 6 picks, and still put his team in a position to win. So the Peyton Manning ball washing is permitted. Although, he's proven that he's not better than Tom Brady. Brady works with all receivers, and if you take away Manning's buddies, he's an average QB.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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not sure if you can say that...

If i asked you 2 weeks ago who Craphanso Thorpe, Roy Hall and Aaron Moorehead were would you have been able to tell me...or how about the career 72 receptions...combined...(over 6 years and change)...

Even when wayne was on the market a few years ago, I didn't want the eagles to bite, because I really didn't think he was all that good...(and he isn't...he's a good receiver, not great)...

this will probably be perceived as an excuse, but how much time has Peyton had to work and click with his #4, 5 and 6 receivers? (Gonzalez and Harrison out) or his #2 TE (Clark out)
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Manny StilesAAA-er
334 days ago
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Here's the Answer you were looking for. If the Colts had Randy Moss, who's balls would be getting washed?
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SuckatsportsVarsity
334 days ago
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I wasn't a big fan of Peyton Manning for a long time, but that game showed how good he really is. They had 15 healthy players on offense, and his top three WR targets were out, as well as a banged up offensive line. What did he do? Brought them back to within 2, and if not for a terrible play by Vinatieri won the game. Could they have had a better chance of winning without throwing a bunch of interceptions? Yeah. But he was throwing to people that don't even run routes in an NFL game on a regular basis.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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Wait, didn't Philip Rivers fumbling the ball in the end zone bring the Colts to within 2? If you think Manning's game last night showed how good he is, you must not think he's very good. Personally, I think the game was an aberration, just one really poorly played game in a great career. But if you're going to judge Peyton on last night's game, you must think he sucks.
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Behbigben15Major Leaguer
334 days ago
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Give up Raw, we already know that you love Brady, its okay if Manning gets some time in the spotlight while Brady has a bye week.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
334 days ago
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I'm sorry, was last night a Super Bowl? Vinateri is just setting you up, brother!
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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Maybe the glint of Vinatieri's 4th super bowl ring caused him to miss it?
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JoliecatJV Squad
334 days ago
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It is a good thing I am not a San Diego Chargers fan even though as a southern Californian I should be. They would be extremely difficult to root for! Near the end of the game Al Michaels kept on making gallows references in talking about Norv Turner, like "...he looks like the floor just got put back underneath the gallows," when talking about how Adam Vinitieri missed his field goal. California teams notoriously play poorly in adverse weather (anything other than 70 degrees and sunny). Yesterday it was raining hard when Phillip Rivers went to throw and the ball dribbled out for an Indianapolis touchdown. Didn't something like this happen to Tom Brady years ago in a snowy game? And they said it was an incomplete pass? Next week the Chargers play the Jaguars (tough team) and then it is the Chiefs in Kansas City (tough place). They could be the division champion with their talent or go sub 500. We'll see!
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MylfJV Squad
333 days ago
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During the game against Oakland, Brady's arm was in a forward throwing motion. River's arm was moving backward, thus the fumble. For the tuck rule to apply the QB's arm has to be moving in the forward throwing motion.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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Listened to Dennis and Callahan this morning...and they posited:

"Would you rather be sitting next to Mike Vangerjagt or Scott Pioli when that happened?""

Callahan's response: "Vanderjagt, he'd be buying a round"
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Niteowl049AAA-er
334 days ago
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Still can't believe Vinatieri missed a 29 yard field goal. A last minute win would have kept the Colts closer to Patriots in case the Patriots do lose a game but now it will be hard to make up two games and get the home field advantage for the Colts.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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its really like 3 games... By virtue of the pats win over the colts, the colts would need to have a better record, not just the same record, in order to claim home field...
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Niteowl049AAA-er
334 days ago
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Very good point JuTMSY4...Patriots would have advantage of having beaten the Colts.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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any shot they have is probably gone baring something of a freak nature (injury, weird losses, etc)
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False ProphetAll-Star
334 days ago
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I watched that play, and as soon as the Field Goal was no good, I smiled knowing that the guy who I watched win 3 Super Bowls for the Pats had just lost the colts their game
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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"I smiled knowing that the guy who I watched win 3 Super Bowls for the Pats and one for the Colts had just lost the colts their game "
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Manny StilesAAA-er
334 days ago
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Translated into English: "I root for the soulless corporate logo, not the human being that was solely responsible for showing me the joy of championships."
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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Solely responsible? Gee, and I thought it was a team game.
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SSreportersLegend
334 days ago
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Manny didn't watch Super Bowl 36 or 38 did he?
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False ProphetAll-Star
334 days ago
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no, it'd be like Rice going to the Cowboys, Favre to the Bears, Marino to the Pats, Ruth or Damon to the Yankees. I'm not mad that he left. I'm mad he went to Indy.
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Manny StilesAAA-er
334 days ago
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Take Vinateri's efforts away and what do you have? The Pats, 0-4 in the Super Bowl all-time.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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Marino to the pats?! except for the odd parcells years, that pats truly blew during most of Marino's career...not exactly a rival...
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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Well if the Patriots didn't have a kicker, as you're suggesting we attempt to theorize, then I doubt they would have tried to kick any field goals at all.
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False ProphetAll-Star
334 days ago
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during marino's career, the AFC East didn't have a real competitor, but the point still stands. And Manny, again. I'm not upset he left (anymore). I'm just upset he went to the colts
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BosBozSoccer Kid
334 days ago
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Hey Manny, Vinatieri was 1 for 3 in Super Bowl 36 -- but at least he kept all his kickoffs in bounds, which is more than Kasay was able to do.
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BosBozSoccer Kid
334 days ago
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correction -- I meant 38
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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If you guys want to say that this game showed how good the Colts are, because they could play like crap, have players out, and come as close to winning as a team can get, that's fine. But to say that this game shows how good Peyton Manning is, then I'm gonna have to call shenanigans.

I'm not saying this game shows that Manning is not a great QB, we all know that he is an amazing player. But he was one of the biggest reasons that his team lost last night. I really don't see how bad receivers can explain bad passes. It'd be one thing if he had a lot of incompletions, but those picks were his fault.

There is no such thing as a good 6 interception game.
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JuTMSY4Legend
334 days ago
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been hanging out with Jack Parker too much?
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SSreportersLegend
334 days ago
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He was not the main reason. With 6 interceptions, the Chargers capitalized on it with a whopping 9 points. The other 14 were Darren Sproles returns.
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RawbeezeitzAAA-er
334 days ago
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They capitalized with a mere 9 points...in a 2 point game. And it was an 8 point game before Rivers fumbled in the end zone.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
334 days ago
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One thing in probably his worst game ever Manning still had the team close enough to win in the last minute and a half...if Vinatieri had made that chipshot field goal.
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JamelAll-American
334 days ago
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I'm not going to read all these comments but for him to miss that field goal-- hell they should beat him in the showers for that (nice homosexual referance for you all). If I was Manning after last night I'd refuse to talk to any of the team mates for like 24 whole hours..... that would show them
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Ea34Div-I Stud
333 days ago
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You forget that even if Manning didn't talk to his teammates for 24 hours, they'd still see him in about 358 commercials, thus offsetting any effect of Manning's silence.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
333 days ago
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By the way, how is Norv Turner still gainfully employed??? I don't even mean as a pro football coach! He seems like a complete loser! Seriously, would you pay this guy to do anything that required any talent or courage at all?
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