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2007 BBall's NL East Preview

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by user Timothy Moreland(Bball3345)

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Atlanta Braves

Rotation              
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1 John Smoltz: Ace.  ERA in the mid-3.00s.  Still can blow hitters away.
2 Tim Hudson: Often hittable.  ERA will stay above 4.00 again this season.
3 Chuck James: Extreme flyball pitcher.  Good young potential #2-3 starter.  Limited upside.
4 Mike Hampton: Collapse is a certain possibility.  Can still eat innings.
5 Kyle Davies: Can only improve on last season's 8.00+ ERA.  Will give the Braves a mid-5.00 ERA from the #5 slot.
CL Bob Wickman: 3rd or 4th best reliever on the team.  Dominated in brief stint in Atlanta last season.
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Lineup                        
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C Brian McCann: Best hitting catcher in the NL.  A .300 hitter with 30-homer potential.  Ginormous upside.
1B Scott Thorman: Could easily hit 20 homers.  Won't get on base often enough to replace LaRoche.
2B Kelly Johnson: Converted outfielder.  Bat could make him a star at second base.
3B Chipper Jones: Still best offensive player on the team.  Can't stay healthy.
SS Edgar Renteria: Bad in the field.  Offense will fall after last season's jump.  Look for 10 HRs and a .280 average.
LF Ryan Langerhans: Gets on base effectively.  Not a lot of power for a corner position.  Most likely to lose his starting spot.
CF Andruw Jones: Defense has fallen dramatically.  Good for 40 homers.
RF Jeff Francoeur: Hits long home runs.  That is about all he does.  Still most likely to breakout.
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Conclusion: The fielding of this squad will be suspect. Who knows how Johnson will adapt defensively to the shift from outfield to second base. Chipper is one of the worst fielders in the league and Andruw has gotten slower as his body has filled out. Jones, Jones, and McCann makes for a solid middle-of-the-order. Francouer should be atleast an average hitter. There are no weaknesses in the starting lineup and the Braves have two good bats off the bench (Craig Wilson and Matt Diaz). The pitching staff is led by a 40-year-old ace. The other starters have little upside. Mike Hampton could possibly hold up the back of the rotation, but after the first three starters, Atlanta has serious issues. After a dissapointing season from their bullpen in 2006, Atlanta beefed up with two closer-worthy relievers in Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano. Along with Oscar Villareal and closer Bob Wickman, the bullpen won't dissapoint this season.

Projection: 82-80 3rd in the NL East

Florida Marlins

Rotation              
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1 Dontrelle Willis: Last season's rise in ERA will be a continuing trend.  Look for him to stay around 4.00.
2 Scott Olsen: Best stuff on this staff.  Can blow hitters away.   
3 Josh Johnson: Outstanding 2006 season.  Will see a substantial decline, but still be a good top-of-the-rotation starter.
4 Anibal Sanchez: Average starter.  Could pitch like a #2-#3 starter.
5 Ricky Nolasco: Effective innings-eater at the back end.  Decent control.  Doesn't scare hitters.
CL Taylor Tankersley: Control issues.  ERA will rise.  Racks up Ks.
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C Miguel Olivo: Has never had an OBP above .290 and don't expect him to get over the .300 hump this season.  
1B Mike Jacobs: Slugger.  Slow.  Liability with the glove.  
2B Dan Uggla: Best glove on the team.  Powerful bat for 2B.  Must not let his OBP drop.
3B Miguel Cabrera: Will be an MVP candidate...for a long time.  His home run power will jump back into the 30's.
SS Hanley Ramirez: All-Star level SS.  All-around solid player.  Huge baserunning threat.  Super potential.
LF Josh Willingham: Bat could make him a star.  Bat would be more helpful at catcher.  Can't play defense.
CF Alfredo Amezaga: Worthless player as a starter.  Zero power.  Speed his only asset.
RF Jeremy Hermida: Lots of potential.  Good breakout candidate.  Power/speed combo.
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Conclusion: The Marlins have a below average defense outside of Uggla. The entire infield and the corner outfielders make up a tremendous top half of the batting order. Unfortunately, Olivo and Amezega are drastic holes at the bottom of the order. Aaron Boone, Joe Borchard, and Cody Ross make for a potentially capable, but not exceptionally strong, bench. Willis is the "old man" of the rotation at 25-years-old. The rotation is strong from top to bottom, but lacks a true ace. Willis needs to revert back to his 2005 form and/or some of the other youngsters need to break out for the Marlins to compete for the Wild Card. Kevin Gregg is a good reliever and Sergio Mitre will be a valuable arm in the bullpen, if he's not starting. Tankersley will hold on to the closer's job long enough to get 30 saves, but he won't dominate.

Projection: 78-84 4th in the NL East

New York Mets

Rotation              
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1 Tom Glavine: Not an ace anymore.  Expect an ERA right around 4.00.
2 Orlando Hernandez: Still brings the heat.  Extreme flyball pitcher.
3 John Maine: Average.  Needs to keep his ERA under 4.00 for this team, but probably won't.
4 Oliver Perez: Still waiting for him to return to the "future ace" he looked like.  Nothing but a borderline major leaguer.
5 Chan Ho Park: Good control last season.  Does not have good stuff.  WHIP will be over 1.40.
CL Billy Wagner: Still one of, if not the, best.  Career ERA of 2.38 is sick.  Expect an ERA around that.
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C Paul Lo Duca: Worst hitter in the lineup.  Little power/ low OBP.  
1B Carlos Delgado: A star with the bat.  Not real smooth in the field.
2B Jose Valentin: Age will limit his playing time.  Holds his own in the field.  Average bat.
3B David Wright: MVP candidate. Expect 30 homers/ 20 stolen bases.  Strong defense.
SS Jose Reyes: Blinding speed.  Put it all together last season.  Production will plateau this season.
LF Moises Alou: Will be able to hit until he dies.  Has never been able to field.
CF Carlos Beltran: See David Wright.
RF Shawn Green: Milledge can do anything Green can do... just better.  
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Conclusion: Milledge should be in the starting lineup. LoDuca still does not deserve to bat second in the order. Beltran, Delgado, and Wright make for a stellar middle of the lineup. There are no glaring weaknesses in the starting lineup. The bench won't make a meaningful contribution. Pelfrey should be starting over Chan Ho Park. The rotation does not have an ace with Pedro hurt. It has three #3 starters, a #4 and a #5 starter in Park. The bullpen features a dominant closer, a durable, valuable reliever in Aaron Heilman, and a few good arms with Pedro Feliciano, Ambiorix Burgos, and Duaner Sanchez.

Projection: 88-74 2nd in the NL East

Philadelphia Phillies

Rotation              
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1 Brett Myers: Expect ERA in the high 3.00s.  Decent control.  Can dominate hitters.
2 Cole Hamels: Big upside.  Best stuff in the rotation.  ERA will be in the mid-3.00s.  Dominant.
3 Adam Eaton: Good control.  Not enough strikeouts.  Home run ball stings him.  Will have an ERA just under 5.00.
4 Freddy Garcia: Expet a low 4.00s ERA.  Best control on the staff(minus Lieber).
5 Jamie Moyer: Eventually will be too old.  Trouble keeping the ball in the park.  Hittable.  Anticipate a 5.00+ ERA. 
CL Tom Gordon: Solid closer.  Has all the skills to be a closer.
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C Rod Barajas: Catcher is the only position where his bat has any value.  Solid defense.  Should hit 15-20 HRs w/ a .250 AVG.
1B Ryan Howard: MVP candidate.  Will challenge 60 homers yet again.  
2B Chase Utley: Anytime a guy could hit 40 homers at 2B and not have it be a surprise, you have found a special player.  
3B Wes Helms: Will hit 20 HRs w/ a starting spot.  Can contribute w/ the bat.  If he slumps, he will be replaced quickly.
SS Jimmy Rollins: Uses stellar speed to stretch hits into extra bases.  Defense is vastly improved from younger days.  
LF Pat Burrell: It is a shame Phillies fans don't appreciate his offense.  High OBP with 30+ HRs.
CF Aaron Rowand: Overrated glove.  Average bat.  Stay away from walls!
RF Shane Victorino: Deserves a Gold Glove.  Fast player with average power.  Should switch positions w/ Rowand.
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Conclusion: The Phillies have good defense at SS, CF, and RF. The rest of the defense is relatively weak. Jayson Werth is the only good bat off of the bench, but he is a starter-quality player. The batting order is solid from top to bottom. Utley, Howard, and the unloved Burrell are one of the nastiest 3/4/5 combos any pitcher will have to face. The rotation can be described as a flyball staff, which does not help their chances in this ballpark. Lieber will end up stealing a rotation spot from Jamie Moyer or he will be traded. Pitching has been a weakness for Philly in the past, but a breakout from Hamels and a bounceback year for Eaton could put an end to that. Gordon, Ryan Madson, and Geoff Geary will be a strong three-headed monster in the bullpen.

Projection: 93-69 1st in the NL East

Washington Nationals

Rotation              
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1 John Patterson: Extreme flyball pitcher.  Will get hurt.  Potential to be an ace when healthy.
2 Mike O'Connor: A success for him is an ERA under 5.00.
3 Shawn Hill: Hittable.  Good control.
4 Jerome Williams: Only 25-years-old.  Strikeout rate in the threes means he won't scare anyone.  Infinite problems.
5 Matthew Chico: Get ready to watch the ball fly out of the park.  
CL Chad Cordero: Solid closer.  Strong walk rate.  Above-average dominance.  HR ball a minor issue.
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Lineup                        
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C Brian Schneider: Defense his only asset.  
1B Nick Johnson: Solid with the glove.  On-base machine.  Good power.
2B Felipe Lopez: Poor glovework.  Alright power for 2B.  
3B Ryan Zimmerman: Huge doubles power.  Superstar potential.  Tremendous defense.  
SS Christian Guzman: Why is this man still in a starting lineup, let alone the majors?
LF Ryan Church: Above-average bat.  
CF Nook Logan: Speedy player.  Struggles getting on base to use speed.
RF Austin Kearns: Will take his game to the next level.  Good defender.
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Conclusion: Guzman and Logan probably do not deserve a spot in the majors. Snelling should be starting, but he will help bolster the bench. This team will build around Zimmerman for the future and there is not much else promising on the roster. The rotation is comprised of an oft-injured #1 starter and a group of #5 starters. Imagine how bad things will get if Patterson goes down, and he will. The bullpen features a dominant closer/set-up combo with Chad Cordero and Jon Rauch. After the rotation is finalized, some of the arms that don't make it will help improve an already deep bullpen.


Projection: 62-100 5th in the NL East

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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
507 days ago
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LoDuca is a very good hitter in the two spot. He has excellent bat control and puts the ball in play. He is a pateint hitter who is not afraid to get 2 strikes on him. That gives Jose reyes the opportunity to look for pitches to steal on. These are all the things you get from watching baseball instead of just simulating it on the computer.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
507 days ago
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This is somewhat of an exhausted issue, but...

"He is a pateint hitter who is not afraid to get 2 strikes on him. That gives Jose reyes the opportunity to look for pitches to steal on"

In 2006, of the 146 MLB players who qualified for the batting title, the number of Pitches/Plate Appearance ranged from 3.1 (Jay Payton) to 4.4 (Kevin Youkilis). The average was 3.8 P/PA. Lo Duca ranked tied for 120th out of the 146 players at 3.5 P/PA, 0.3 below average. It doesn't appear that Lo Duca gives Reyes a whole lot of opportunity to steal. But that is just me and my silly spreadsheet talking. Tell me I'm wrong.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
507 days ago
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You're wrong.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
507 days ago
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Shoot! Ya got me.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
507 days ago
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... =D
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
507 days ago
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Great, why don't you reformulate that spreadhseet to show the difference between LoDuca's performance when Reyes was on 1st base with no stealing opportunities and every other possible situation. Why don't you reformulate your spreadhseet so that it shows LoDuca's ability to hit behind the runner. You can't rely on computers for baseball knowledge. It doesn't work. The game is played on the field, not an excel spreadsheet.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
507 days ago
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Hey MJD, you should change your username to "The game is played on the field, not an excel spreadsheet". It'll save you time, since you type some variation of it in practically all of your comments...
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
507 days ago
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The game is played on grass, not an abacus!!!
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
507 days ago
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Plastic grass, not plastic TI-83's!
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
507 days ago
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If you take a laptop out into a meadow, it can be played on both grass AND excel!!! Or if you smash your computer with a Paul LoDuca signed bat (make sure to take a few pitches first to let Windows run)
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
507 days ago
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When you smash the computer, be sure to do it gangsta-style like Samir from Office Space. Make you look like a tough guy... You know, like Darin Erstad.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
506 days ago
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If a laptop crashes in the woods, does anybody notice?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
507 days ago
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MJD, Lo Duca had 84 At Bats last season with a man on first, all of which were not Reyes. So, you think that because of the fewer than 80 chances with Reyes on first base, Lo Duca's ability to "hit behind the runner" somehow add a substantial value to his performance? The fact is, Lo Duca does not work counts. He does not get on-base very often for a top-of-the-order batter. He does not have ANY power. He does not steal bases. What does he do? Hit behind the runner 20 or 30 times throughout the course of an entire year? That does not make him a good player.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
507 days ago
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you forgot "he gets paid alot" to be so effective
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
507 days ago
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Answer me this. I am sure the Mets have a computer. I am sure they can plug whatever info you want into their computer. So why do you think that the team with arguably the best lineup in the NL insists on hitting what you consider to be a below average hitter in the 2 spot? Is Willie Randolph just an idiot?

Could it be that he hit .318 last year? Could it be he hit 215 ground balls to his 161 fly balls?


But hey, you are getting there. You came close to saying something good about Jose Reyes. Last year you were arguing that Kevin youkilis was a better leadoff hitter than Reyes.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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Managers aren't perfect. They can make mistakes too.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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I wouldn't even chalk it up to a mistake. I'm pretty sure Randolph simply looks at Lo Duca's .318 BA last year and his .290 career BA, and assumes he's a quality player. If anything, I'd chalk it up to ignorance.
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KelsdadAll-Star
507 days ago
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Has anyone noticed LoDuca had a higher OBP than Reyes? Not enough to argue about, but higher nonetheless. From The Sporting News yearbook, "Paul LoDuca is the perfect #2 hitter because of his patient approach at the plate...."
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
507 days ago
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Sporting News yearbook also said Andruw Jones was the most overrated player in baseball... But I agree, Lo Duca had a best-case-scenario type year last season; if (and only if) he keeps hitting like that, he's not a liability. And, you know, if you're going to bat him anywhere, why not really high in the order (and make use of his batting average-heavy OBP)? I mean, it's not like he's driving anybody in, that's for damn sure...
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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Last season was Lo Duca's highest OBP since he was 29-years-old. I don't think many 34-year-olds are just now breaking out. Especially not aging catchers.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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I would like to know how the Sporting News decided LoDuca has "patience at the plate." There is no evidence of it.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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I'm with you, Bball. Just playing a little MetsJetsDevils Advocate...
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
506 days ago
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He has LOTS of patience at the plate (behind it) - Maybe they asked the umpires?
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KelsdadAll-Star
506 days ago
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I agree somewhat with TSN's reference to Andruw Jones. Not the most overrated certainly, but close.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
506 days ago
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Maybe because they watch baseball instead of "analyze" it?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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You're right MJD, I have never watched a baseball game in my life. I HATE baseball and would never waste a second of my life on the stupid game. Give me a break MJD. Do you ever support your arguments or just take shots at me?
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
506 days ago
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Nothing I say will change your mind. You think that all baseball can be explained and analyzed using an algorythm. The fact that the Sporting News also said LoDuca was a pateint hitter does nothing for you because you can't plug that into excel. The Sporting News, like myself, basis that statement on watching a big chunk of LoDucas at bats. Your excel spreadsheet, I am sure, is a great tool for fantasy baseball. And if fasntasy baseball simulated real baseball, your excel spreadsheets would matter. However, fantasy baseball is not real baseball and that is why you can't rely on number crunching to determine the value, attributes and weaknesses of a particular player.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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You've never tried to change my mind, because that would require supporting your side. You've never done that. So why should I change my mind?

I have given you actual reasons to support my side. That doesn't mean that you have to change your opinions, but at least I have a reason for believing what I do.

Is anything I say ever going to change YOUR mind?
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
506 days ago
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You don't accept support because the assertions I am making can't be proved on excel.
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KelsdadAll-Star
506 days ago
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Pitches per at bat doesn't correllate(?) into patience at the plate.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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Then how does one judge "patience?"
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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Why not? (It's "correlate", BTW)
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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For what it's worth, there was an R=.679 correlation between BB/Rate and P/PA for all players with at least 100 plate appearances last season. So, there is a fairly strong correlation between P/PA and BB/rate, which makes sense. The more pitches you see, the more likely you will get ball 4.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
506 days ago
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judging patience takes a very long time!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
506 days ago
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And the more likely you'll be forced to swing at a bad pitch with two strikes. And hitters don't go to the plate looking for a walk. A hitter may see 2400 pitches in his 600 plate appearances, divide the larger by the smaller, you get a number. Each individual plate appearances are different to an extent, some require taking pitches, some require a bunt on the first pitch. So what you have referenced to is a season average, which in no way is indicative of a hitter's patience or lack thereof. Patience at the plate correlates (thanks Davis) into adapting to the situation at hand. If a hitter needs to take a pitch for the steal to be successful that's his job. The pitch he took may be the best of the whole sequence, but he took it because it was his job, if no one was on he likely would have ripped it.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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Well, how often does situational hitting come up? Bunts, hit-and-runs, steals, etc. are understandable cases where pitches/PA don't tell the whole story, but even a guy like Clint Barmes (the biggest sacrificer in MLB last year, not counting pitchers) only bunted successfully 19 times last year, and probably only failed a few more times on top of that. So I guess the bigger question is, what approach does a guy usually take to the plate, and how often does he deviate from that approach because of the situation at hand? How often does Lo Duca end a plate appearance early in the count because somebody forces him to, and how often does he do so on his own?
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KelsdadAll-Star
506 days ago
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Site is annoying today that's for sure.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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There's something we all can agree on!
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KelsdadAll-Star
506 days ago
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Great questions, Davis!

In my opinion, every at-bat is situational. Runner on first, no outs in the third inning is different than runner on first, no outs in the seventh inning. When a hitter goes to the plate he should have an understanding of what it is he needs to do during the at bat. The situation can sometimes change during the at-bat, such as Reyes stealing second. So his focus now goes from moving him up to driving him in.

In your second question, its how the atbat develops. When you're watching a game and you here the analyst talk about the hitter setting up the pitcher or vice versa, this is exactly what he is referring to. Its the batter having a responsibility during the at-bat and the pitcher attempting to not let him be successful, or the other way around. Greg Maddux couldn't break a pane of glass, never walked hitters, yet almost never got hurt because he was uncannily successful in getting the batter to do what he wanted.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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I guess this is where the divide is between old-school and new-school thoughts on strategy -- shouldn't the objective be to get on base every single time up, regardless of situation? Of course you can't go up looking to walk every time, that'd be stupid... But w/ a man on second, there is equal pressure to get a hit, knock the guy in -- so you end up swinging at pitches you wouldn't normally swing at, and although you sometimes drive him in, you probably make an out more times than you would have if you just treated the at-bat like any other.

As for point #2, obviously the pitcher can force a batter to end a PA early in the count, but I meant more whether Randolph has forced Lo Duca to adopt some strategy that causes him to see fewer pitches (not Lo Duca's fault), or how much of Lo Duca's low pitches/PA is Lo Duca willfully not working the count.

This is interesting to me, because the last time I played (in high school), we were really more concerned with simply getting hits than any kind of situational, hit-behind-the-runner kind of thing. It still amazes me that Major Leaguers can actually hit 90+ MPH pitches in the general direction they want!
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
506 days ago
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And what about productive outs? Reyes leads off. He hits a single. LoDuca takes 3 pitches. Its a 2-1 count. Reyes takes off. LoDuca takes a strike. Reyes safe at 2nd. 2-2 pitch, LoDuca grounds out to 2nd. Reyes to 3rd. Beltran flies out to center, scoring Reyes. LoDcua's AB was key to socring that run. He took pitches letting Reyes steal, and hit behind the runner allowing Reyes to be on 3rd base with 1 out and the RBI men coming up. You appreciate that when you watch game after game. You miss that if you just plug stats into a spreadsheet.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
506 days ago
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And exactly how often does that scenario happen. I would imagine maybe a handful of times throughout an entire season. It really isn't enough to make a difference to Lo Duca's overall value. Not to mention that Productive Outs is one of the dumbest stats ever made.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
506 days ago
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I agree with you D21Dub... singles rule!!! They disrupt the pitcher's rhythm WAY more than Home Runs because dinks and dunks crush the spirit, THEN there's a guy on first to worry about.

As a pitcher, if you give up a HR - the guy beat you, maybe it was a bad pitch... it happens... you shake it off and go at the next guy. When you give up single after single it crushes your spirit and you lose your confidence (especially on crappy punch-n-judy singles)

Think about ego. Does it hurt you worse when Barry Bonds goes cove on you or when David Eckstein beats out a dribbler?

Hell, even if a scrub goes yard, you can shrug it off as luck, but if a scrub squibs his way on base it pisses you off to no end!

AS for productive outs, only sac flies are "productive", but they really aren't either. I HATE the idea that giving up an out is a GOOD thing. You only get 27 of them...
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
506 days ago
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This is why productive outs matter. Baseball is not just a physical sport, but a mental one as well. With the exception of sacrafice bunts, there really is no other situation where a player "gives up an out." However, smart players know how to play baseball. They know the situation. Thus, with a runner on thrid and less than 2 outs, the hitter is trying to get a hit. However, they have to alter their approach at the plate because while getting a hit is the best scenario, if they do make out, it has to score the run. Same thing with hitting with runners on base. Paul LoDuca os trying to get a hit. that is the best case scenario. But he also has to hit behind the runner. thus, while he is trying to get a hit, he is also trying to hit the ball to a particular segment of the field because that way, even if he does not suceed in his ultimate goal, he has still helped his team.

Look at it this way. The absolute best hitters get a hit slighly more than 3 times out of every 10 at bats. thus, that player is getting out between 6 and 7 times out of every 10 official at bats. But all outs are not created equal. An out that moves the runner from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to third, could be crucial to a team winning and losing.

Productive outs are actually one of THE most crucial aspects of actual baseball.
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Davis21wylieAll-Star
506 days ago
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http://www.h...uctive-outs/

http://www.h...uts-article/

http://www.g...net/PROD.htm

There is a heirarchy of plays in baseball:

Home Run Triple Double Single Base on Balls/Hit by Pitch Reach on Strikeout Reach on Error Productive Out Strikeout Out on Ball in Play Double Play Triple Play

A productive out is the best kind of out. But it's still an out. And outs are very, very bad things indeed.
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KelsdadAll-Star
506 days ago
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MJD..What a beautiful explanation. Absolutely brilliant.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
482 days ago
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All I have to say is MVP...MVP...MVP, GO PHILLIES!!!
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