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"Extreme Fanism" and "True Yankees"

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by user Harold Friend

LouGehrig

The term "true Yankee" is idiotic and has produced much confusion.

I think that what must be addressed is the difference between Yankees who were signed and/or came up through the minor leagues and those whose contracts were obtained either through trades or free agency.

The first big name to become a Yankee and become a booed Yankee was probably Roger.

The five consecutive World Champions consisted primarily of players signed by the Yankees.

Joe Collins, Jerry Coleman, Philip Francis, Bobby Brown, Mr. DiMaggio, Mr. Henrich, Henry Albert, Mr. Berra, and most of the pitching staff came up through the farm system.

Eddie Lopat's contract was obtained from the Sox, Gene Woodling from the Indians, and when help was needed, Johnny Mize and Johnny Hopp were added.

Yankees' fans didn't boo them. They were grateful to have them to help keep the streak going.

When Turley and Larsen arrived, they were occasionally booed when they got bombed, but they were generally accepted. Ralph Terry went back and forth to KC so often he got frequent train travel miles, but he was not booed.

Then we traded Henry Albert Bauer, Norm Siebern and others for Roger. In 1959, we finished third, 15 games out after having won four consecutive pennants and two World Championships from 1955-1958.

Roger was supposed to lead us to the World Championship again. He had a fine 1960 but whenever he failed, he was booed. Mickey, who had been booed unmercifully until 1956, and then again during a poor 1959 season (it was considered poor for Mickey in 1959. With the passage of time, it is rarely mentioned).

In 1960, Mickey had another sub-par season for him while Roger did well, but the fans cheered "OUR" Mickey and booed Roger, who came to us by way of Cleveland and Kansas City.

Roger really did play a significant role in the 1961 World Championship despite the fact that his "numbers" are horrible.

He hit .105, getting only 2 hits in 19 at bats. His OBA was .261. His SA was .316.

But statistics are limited, despite what many are led to believe, because with the 1961 Series tied at one game each, the Yankees were trailing the upstart Reds, 2-1 in the eighth inning of pivotal Game 3.

Johnny Blanchard tied the game with a pinch hit home run and then Roger won it with a home run in the ninth inning. It was a nice home run.

Today, in the era of free agency, trading Soriano for Rodriguez was supposed to bring us the World Championship. It has not YET occurred, and that is one reason Rodriguez is booed.

Of greater significance is that Jeter came up through the system. He was signed as a Yankee and is a Yankee.

Rodriguez was signed by the Mariners and came up through their system. We got him by way of Seattle, Texas, Boston, and Manny Ramirez.

Finally, in 2006, "extreme fanism" exist. What is "extreme fanism?" It is similar to one of Billy Joel's works. "Extreme fanism" is the fact that today, there is little fan loyalty to players (Jeter and Rivera are almost exeptions, but they too have been booed). Fans want their team to win. When a player does not produce in situations that would produce wins, the player is booed. A key hit immediately produces cheers.

Last night, when Rodriguez was at bat in a tie game with the bases loaded, the fans cheered for him to get a hit. They forgot the boos---until he failed to produce.


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Wed 08/16/06, 9:33 am EST


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Manny StilesDraft Pick
709 days ago
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Any yankee fan/fanatic born after 1919 is a bandwagon jumper!
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
709 days ago
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Reggie Jackson, Dave Winfield are among other prominent Yankee Free Agents booed in New York
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Awrigh01All-Star
709 days ago
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I think being a true yankee is an attitude--the attitude the world has fallen in love with. When the Yankees are the "Yankees" they exhibit a classy professionalism and uncanny ability to win that few organizations have been able to sustain.


The Yankees have institutionaly created this brand of professionalism, as is exhibited by the number of farm grown Yankees whose pours literally drip this Yankee blue. Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams come to mind as modern examples.


Other players, while Free Agents or acquired through trades, just innately possess this outlook. Paul O'Neil might have initially been a Red, but he exuded this classy professionalism and desire to win (in between his screaming matches with umpires). A recent example would have to be Hideki Matsui. The man apologized for getting injured. If that's not classy, I don't know what is.


Guys like Jeter, Bernie, Rivera, O'Neil not only had/have great statistical seasons, but they also do/did the little intangibles in big spots to help the team. Sure you can quanitfy clutch hits, but there is more than clutchness. It's all the little things that change the momentum of the game. How can you quantify O'Neil's passion and its effect on rallying his teammates. Jeter or Bernie's ability to work pitchers when it matters, extend ABs, make the one great play to change the momentum of the game. The fear that Rivera instilled in the opposing team and the feeling of deflation after he strikes out the side in a big spot.


The boos aren't coming because of Arod's numbers. The boos are coming because Arod lacks that unquantifyable X factor that other great yankees have. That unquantifyable X factor is what differentiates a "True Yankee"
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TartanVarsity Captain
709 days ago
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Paul O'Neil never kicked a ball to second base from right field for an out with the Yankees. He's always a Red in my personal book.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
709 days ago
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to be fair, it WAS a pretty good kick (against the Phillies at the Vet, bottom of the ninth, it was a ball hit to him that if he fielded it cleanly, he MIGHT have had a chance to throw out the runner scoring. He bobbled it, bobbled it again and then kicked it out of competitive frustration. It's not like he was kicking a puppy or a cameraman)
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LouGehrigVarsity Captain
709 days ago
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Extremely well said. Tim Raines and Chili Davis are other players who were acquired and who had winning, classy attitudes. Joe Girardi is an excellent example.
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Manny StilesDraft Pick
709 days ago
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Darryl Strawberry, Jose Canseco, Wade Boggs, Steve Sax, (all Simpsons Softball vets) & Chuck Knoblauch... I will acknowledge only one TRUE Yankee - Don Mattingly (the only Yankee who deserved better)
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
709 days ago
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wow awrigh, that deserves an article of its own! forsome reason, this reminds me of manny's article, http://www.a...as_a..._aka_"the_Pete_Rose_Game"(fun_stuff) . im fine with non-true yankees and whatnot, but the real thing that gets me is a-rod. whenever he tries to field a ball, my heart drops. i shouldn't have to go thru so much worrying whenever the man touches the ball.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
709 days ago
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^^ maybe this link will work better: http://tinyurl.com/lfrhj
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Awrigh01All-Star
709 days ago
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you can just put in [[Vote! I'll always remember him as a... aka "the Pete Rose Game"(fun stuff)]] which will out put Vote! I'll always remember him as a... aka "the Pete Rose Game"(fun stuff) the internal link.
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LouGehrigVarsity Captain
708 days ago
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Another point is that there were MANY Yankees who were booed during the late 1960s through the mid 1970s but because the teams were bad and the players deserved the boos, it is rarely mentioned.
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